Occupy Broadwayworld- Page 11

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 1:28pm

Thanks for posting the article Namo. I had not read it before, but it is pretty much everything I have been trying to articulate.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 1:34pm

We know Roxy will read the headline and say labeling questions "dumb" is unfair to straight white men, the last group it's okay to discriminate against. Goth will say he heard ACORN is running Occupy.

[Q]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 3:12pm

"Maybe the days of explaining the patently obvious to the transparently compromised are finally behind us.

By refusing to take a ragtag, complicated, and leaderless movement seriously, the mainstream media has succeeded only in ensuring its own irrelevance. The rest of America has little trouble understanding that these are ragtag, complicated, and leaderless times. This may not make for great television, but any movement that acknowledges that fact deserves enormous credit."

Love. This.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 3:18pm

Is wrong of me that I now thing of OWS as an offshot of Battlestar Galactica?

[Q]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 3:25pm

I think of Roddenberry.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 3:55pm

The original Battlestar Galactica show (in the late 1970's)ended each week with I think:

"Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a rag-tag fugitive fleet on a lonely quest: a shining planet known as Earth."

[Q]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 5:17pm

I just think of Roddenberry in a 'hope for the future' kind of way.

But, now you've got me thinking about Dirk Benedict . . . and I'm ok with that.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 5:36pm

Richard Hatch wasn't too shabby either.

[Q]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 6:03pm

Back on track (after a fun little diversion!)
Strange Bedfellows

[SNAFU]

Posted: 10/28/11 at 7:27pm

I guess my problem is, what can be done to apease the protesters? I applaud their various voices but just what is Government or Big Business going to do to make it right?

"Yes we were wrong in saving these banks and big business with Taxpayer Monies allowing them to cut back on thier loans to small businesses and Joe Average?" What will that achieve?

Is there anything to do? Is there any one (hell even 20 points) that can be redressed to satisfy the movement? It is a movement of unrest, a movement of displeasure of really ot having a say anymore. Please, don't say "Go vote" for with the recent People's United Bill that is a joke! It is Corporations are {People too mentality that is what is wrong with the system at present.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/29/11 at 1:50am

I would begin to feel appeased if there were some prosecutions of the finance industry criminals who destroyed the economy. In the much smaller savings and loan scandal of the '80s, 1100 cases went to prosecutors and more than 800 bank officials went to jail. Hundreds of billions of dollars were lost in this most recent meltdown. And two of the too big to fail banks are back to taking high stakes risks where they will reap the profits but if it tanks again, the US taxpayers will take the hit via the FDIC. So, I'd like to see that stopped.

I believe the 40 days of grown-up conversation (not counting Roxy, Goth or Herman Cain) have finally shed some light on this and have set off a great awakening. And Occupy is one of the fruits of that awakening. I never ever thought this country would be capable of talking about such complex issues like adults. Yet here we are.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/30/11 at 11:45pm

From the New York Daily News, of all places:

The “model” civilization that’s sprung up at Zuccotti is itself increasingly divided between the stakeholders in the nascent movement who feel invested in the emerging economic, social and cultural causes of “the 99%,” and hangers-on, including a fast-growing contingent of lawbreakers and lowlifes, many of whom seem to have come to Zuccotti in the last week with the cynical encouragement of the NYPD.

A peaceful assembly can not possibly be allowed to expand organically without a little repressive social engineering from the obviously terrified powers that be, can it?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/31/11 at 10:37am

More on the allegation that the NYPD is trying to undermine the OWS movement, and safety and security of those at Zuccotti by directing addicts to go there.




Former NY Sun Editor Accuses NYPD Of Sending Addicts to Occupy Wall Street

[yodamarie78]

Posted: 11/1/11 at 1:28pm

This weekend the people who were arrested in Nashville on Friday have been released because the judge in the case refused to sign their warrants. He ruled that “fourteen hours is woefully inadequate time within which to allow the group an opportunity to comply with the newly enacted rules, regulations, curfew and permit requirements.’’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/28/tennessee-judge-orders-occupy-nashville-protesters-released/

Then today a judge issued an order allowing the protests to continue, ruling that the restrictions are unconstitutional. Through the 21st at least, Occupy Nashville will be able to protest without worrying about being arrested.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpps/news/occupy-nashville-judge-halts-arrests-of-demonstrators-dpgonc-20111101-fc_15740466

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 11/1/11 at 6:22pm

NAMO

You are obsessed with saying things that are alledgedly hurtful to me. The day I take you seriously is the day I know it is all over for me.

Unfortunately, any serious message from the fleabags in Zuccoti park has long gone. One of the protestors lovingly told a TV reporter he would stab him in the throat with a pen. Crimes (even attempted rape) are being swept under the carpet. Screw the people who live there who can no longer use their park & have their neighborhood turned into a huge urinal.It should be interesting when the rats (4 footed ones) start making their appearence in the park and neighborhood in general.The homeless are not welcome there so I assume they are part of the 1% infiltrating their band of merry men.

NAMO if you support them I suggest you donate money and actually show solidarity by bunking with them.

NAMO you could have been a contender.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 11/1/11 at 7:28pm

Roxy, may I ask you a question? In all seriousness. Have you actually been down there?
This is not an attack but a simple question.


And having lived in that neighborhood for over 12 years . Mr Rxy the four footed type of rats have held court there since well before 9/11!

Updated On: 11/1/11 at 07:28 PM

[Almira]

Posted: 11/1/11 at 8:18pm

OCCUPY THE FUTURE
by
Noam Chomsky

"I've never seen anything quite like the Occupy movement in scale and character, here and worldwide. The Occupy outposts are trying to create cooperative communities that just might be the basis for the kinds of lasting organizations necessary to overcome the barriers ahead and the backlash that's already coming. That the Occupy movement is unprecedented seems appropriate because this is an unprecedented era, not just at this moment but since the 1970s."

Full article:

http://www.truth-out.org/occupy-future/1320154096

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/1/11 at 11:24pm

No Roxy, I do not live at an Occupy site because I am lucky enough to have a place to live and currently have a full-time job in the same place I've worked for 18 and 3/4 years. However, I am under no illusions that my job could not be eliminated with the snap of a finger, as has happened to many of my long-time colleagues in the past three years. And if that paycheck went away, I have no reason to believe it would be a breeze to find employment at anywhere near my current salary level, which is no great shakes but does have some weight thanks to seniority. I'm one of those people who knows how quickly everything could go south for me due to things I can not control.

Which is why I vigorously support Occupy. I spend as many free hours as I can spare at the Occupy site, I hold signs, I talk reasonably with reasonable people, and though I do not donate money, I buy lots and lots and lots of supplies and bring food that Occupy expresses a need for. Because they ask.

I am sick of the financial malfeasance of the too big to fail banks, the lack of regulation, and the deleterious effect lobbyists from Wall Street and the financial industry in general has on electoral politics in this culture. That is why I support Occupy urgently.

You however, are misreading me if you think I write what I do about you in order to "hurt" you. I couldn't care less about hurting you. I write what I write to point out how frequently you pick up your themes and ideas from Murdochian media. I am not surprised to see you repeating the latest meme about how it "was good right at the beginning" but now it's over/tired/worn out its welcome, blah de blah. If only one of you folks who is now saying it was good at the beginning had actually said ANYWHERE at the time you thought it was good. There is, of course, no record of you ever saying anything of the kind.

And then you repeat the same old lines about the sight smelling like a urinal (although, to give you credit, you've dropped the line of the 3/4 acre NY site as "reeking of feces" that you got from a tabloid newspaper and not from your own olfactory system), and this BS about the "homeless not being welcome there." I have personally not seen any evidence of this. Of course the homeless are just as much a part of the 99% as you and me, although you're probably loathe to admit it, and thanks to the whittling away of social safety nets by the greed merchants, they have even fewer places to get help.

However, although the various encampments generally include tents dedicated to libraries, medics, food, clothing, spiritual space, volunteer legal advice and bicycle power generators, there are not professional addictions counselors or people trained in the proper medical disposal of sharps on site. If there is any frustration bubbling up, it's probably from the fact that Occupy is not equipped to be a service provider.

But why would you know this? The media you follow has to create a drama, two sides to pit against each other, because they simply don't know what to do with a leaderless movement made up of nothing but leaders. They (and you) simply do not have the vocabulary or the mental acuity to understand what that means or looks like.

As for the neighbors, well, as we've seen, the Constitution does not guarantee a life free from disturbance while others are exercising their first amendment rights. And as for their being unable to enjoy, again, the 3/4 of an acre park, all they have to do is turn left and walk a few feet to get to another park.

Again, if I wanted to hurt you, I would have to care about you. So that should be proof that I don't have any desire to do that. I would love it if you could find a way to form and present your very own opinions, to reach your own conclusions and express in them in your very own words, instead of not giving credit to the Murdoch media that supplies you with all the sound bytes you relay here. But I know that's far too much to hope for from you.

[If our history on this board is any guide, most likely after you read this you will respond by saying again that you don't read my posts. And that Mrs R told you to tell me I should eff myself and the horse I rode in on.]

Updated On: 11/1/11 at 11:24 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/10/11 at 7:58pm

Matt Taibii finally gets it and then he nails it in this article. He captures what I have personally found to be so great about visiting and supporting my local Occupy. I realize if Roxy could get all the way through the article he would complain that W is not called The Great Satan anywhere in the article, but he could never get all the way though it. Normal people might enjoy the insights in the article.
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the OWS Protests

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/11/11 at 11:33am

Let's just get this outta the way before Roxy and Goth parrot it back as fact.
NY Post’s new, crazy OWS smear

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/11/11 at 11:52am

Umm, wouldn't there be video cameras on that site?

I did read that there has been a nasty flu going through the NY site, and that might do more damage to the occupation than the weather. Here's hoping that there are some strong immune systems down there.

And, FWIW, while I generally agree with many of Taibii's positions, I find him to be too smug and self-satisfied for his own good (and for my taste - maybe I just prefer a bit of earnestness to self-satisfied know-it-all-ness). His ego seems to be the size of something circling in the skies over a football game with the moniker of "goodyear".

Doing another supply run this weekend for the LA folks.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/11/11 at 12:02pm

I know, he overdoes the testosterone. It takes away from his genuine insights. I found reading the article more satisfying than listening to him.

As for the Memorial, I don't believe there are any cameras at all, it's run on the Honor System. It never occurred to them anybody would do anything down there.

Also, did you hear the first ever street shooting in the history of Oakland, California happened a block away from Occupy? Though it had nothing to do with Occupy, it'd probably be a good idea to shut down all the Occupy sites around the country.

And that's it for another edition of Sarcastic News!

[Q]

Posted: 11/11/11 at 12:06pm

I really liked the article. I fell into that same category, and have taken a similar mental journey (due in no small part to Namo.)

I also shared it on Facebook, and have had a couple others share it from there. Interestingly (to me, at least,) they qualify it by saying they don't completely agree with the perspective - but still share it.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/11/11 at 12:23pm

Namo, I actually put someone else's voice in my head when I read his work. Again, I generally agree with his insights, and I am glad that he "gets" what is going on with OWS.

And these are HD Cams. I am not sure how much zooming can be done, (there is some zoom functionality online) but I would honestly be surprised if there was no security on the site - it would seem like a natural terrorist target (but maybe I am just a cynic).
WTC

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/13/11 at 3:44pm

Just back from dropping stuff off at Occupy LA. Beautiful day, folks very thankful for the donations, and it seems pretty calm and mellow.

Occupy On!