Oklahoma City Univ. Summer Program is AMAZZZING

I suprised my friend by going to "Les Miserables" last night at the OCU summer music theater camp and OMG..it was the most amazing show I have ever seen. It was like watching a Broadway tour..really talented students. They're Eponone was way better than the girl I saw a few months ago in NYC. My friend said she had the best experience of her life at OCU, and she has attended Stagedoor and the Michigan programs. She sent a link of pictures from the summer (she's in a few!LOL) http://www.flickr.com/photos/59013450@N00/.

She said that they're talking about doing Sweeney Todd next year or maybe Hairspray! I hope to be there!!

Updated On: 7/28/07 at 11:18 AM

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

You have a lot more credibility when you praise a particular school if you refrain from denigrating others. Some people seem incapable of doing this.

Mr. Tuttle, perhaps you should think before you post. I did not attend Stage Door. I've never even been there. My point was that it's wonderful to share information about various schools and summer programs. Hooray for liking the program you attend. I am always skeptical, though, of people who for whatever reason cannot do this without then saying something negative about another school or program.

And yes, I did go to stagedoor and it was an amazing experience. I loved it. I was seriously considering OCU until I saw all these posts. With many different people saying how great stagedoor was and also posting about other things, and with about 4 people saying how amazing ocu was, and putting down everything else, it turned me off of the program big time. If this is their way of marketing they need to seriously rethink it.

I'm guessing you haven't seen the identical previous posts...

Mr.Tuttle, the only individual I see who is bitter here is you. I didn't call anyone out, even though I could have since probably 99% of waitingforkathy's posts have been similar to the one here, shilling for OCU and saying negatives about other programs. I never attended any pre-college program, and am already a college grad and working actor so I have no pony in this race. I just think it's inappropriate to be negatively speaking of ANY program if you haven't attended, and, from what I can see, waitingforkathy has yet to attend ANY program.

You see, my talentless friend, sharing one's opinion doesn mean bad mouthing. Just beacuse our opinions don't agree with your final word is just too bad. It's called "get over it." Deal. Move on. And, as you can see, there are several here who don't share your opinion. Mine included. You don't rule here. Get over yourself.

And how pitiful is it that you keep track of people posting here? Sad actually. You really don't have a life, do you? And I pitty the show that "called you back." You see, this is a small business. Idiots and mean people like you don't last nor make it. But perhaps this is what your valued Stagedoor teaches you to do....be a problem and get work! Yeah..that's the ticket! You better hope you never end up with a show I'm involved with.

All the best with your "career."

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Oh, mr. Tuttle. Ha. I doubt you went to stagedoor, and if you did, you probably were placed in the chorus and have been bitter ever since. Lets know the truth, tuttle. Why do you have a grudge against stagedoor? What did they do to you? Why do you assume all stagedoor kids are bad? Why? I actually can't believe I'm responding. You're probably the BIGGEST hypocrite I've ever encountered in my life. That's right, I'm talentless. You've only ever talked to me on the internet. What a great way to judge talent. Yeah, sharing your opinion DOES mean badmouthing sometimes. You don't just share your opinion, you parade it around like it's fact. So how dare you call me mean tuttle, please, tell me, have you actually READ any of your posts? There is not a kind tone to ONE of them. It's not hard to keep track tuttle, I have a good memory, and you're always on here talking bad about one thing or another. Stop trying to pretend like you ever say anything good about anything. You only contribute negative energy to this board. The only reason I commented on this post was because of how ridiculous the shilling is. I have never seen an OCU post without comparing it to stagedoor, michigan, or NYU. That is being bitter and mean.

Updated On: 7/29/07 at 01:32 PM

Mr. Tuttle,
Are you an OCU student or grad? If so, I imagine the faculty would appreciate it if you would put a lid on the attitude. It speaks very poorly of what is probably in reality a very good MT program. I too have noticed a trend with OCU posters both here and on another group that comes off to this impartial observer as something of an institutional inferiority complex. You don't see that kind of thing coming from students of the undisputedly top programs. They don't need it.

Whoa okay. No one ever came here to bash OCU. Erin and JG simply stated their opinion that the shilling is going a bit overboard. That's it. Done. Both them have also said that they never went to Stagedoor so I don't see why you are claiming they did. I also don't see anything rude in Soozie's post. I thought she was rather polite. Everyone had been quite tame until Mr. Tuttle unjustly called erin and jg "immature twits" in response to them simply stating how much OCU is advertised on these boards.

Dear Waiting for Kathy,

I certainly did NOT bash OCU. In fact, I said I had heard from students and parents who have participated in the OCU summer program, that it was very good and they enjoyed it. Since you brought up college counseling, I can also tell you that I have recommended OCU's summer MT program to clients. I have also recommended OCU as a college program as well. I think it is very good. No where did I bash it. In fact, my entire point is that I think someone can think well of a program without having to bash other programs at the same time. The summer programs and colleges my kids attend are not the best and I would NEVER claim they were better than other programs but simply that my kids chose them because these programs and schools fit what they wanted and they have loved them. My kids do not think they are better than other programs. They have no need to put down other programs. They can articulate why they made the choices they made. These programs are all good but just different. Students should pick what appeals to them. They can compare programs. They can discuss why they picked A over B. I do not see those who attended MPulse or SDM bashing OCU. I often see OCU folks bashing other programs and saying theirs is the best. That is a constant trend in posts and it is off putting. That is all I am saying. I was not rude to anyone here. Posts such as those by Mr. Tuttle where other posters are put down, are offensive in nature. This is about an attitude, not which program is best. None are the best. All are worthwhile and each are different.

With regard to Erinrebecca, again, she never has attended ANY pre-college theater program, nor Stagedoor Manor. I was simply agreeing with her point about how one can share about a program they love (or in YOUR case, a program a friend has enjoyed and you haven't even attended), without having to be negative about other programs. I constantly read promotional posts about OCU that tout it as the best and say it is better than X, Y, or Z program that the poster has not attended. I can't imagine my own kids, let alone myself, touting one program as the best or better than another. My kids, nor I, think poorly of programs/colleges they did not choose. They just chose ones that met their personal criteria, as it should be.

You may wish to examine the level of courtesy in your post. I am not a "so called" college counselor. Indeed, I am a trained college counselor who does this for a living. You are a student. I respect you as a student. It would be appropriate for you to post respectfully to me as an adult, parent, or college counselor (I wasn't even posting about college counseling but you brought it up).

You accuse me of bashing anyone with a negative opinion of Stagedoor Manor. Please let me know where I have ever done that. I do not think Stagedoor Manor is for all people and it doesn't bother me one bit if someone has not enjoyed it. I know many who do. I do not think it is the best. I do think it is a wonderful program for those seeking that sort of experience. I do not mind if someone else who has attended doesn't like it. I was saying that those who tout another program, can and should do so, without bashing others in their wake, nor programs they have never personally attended. It says more about the poster than anything else.

You keep saying others claim that some here are attacking "the best camp ever." I didn't see anyone here say that SDM is the best camp ever. I have read many posts here claiming OCU to be the best, however. That's the point. Nobody who attends these other programs are saying they are better than OCU's program. They are only saying they enjoyed it. Speaking for myself, I have shared about SDM but have never said it is the best, nor do I think that. I have no need to say it is the best but to simply share what I know first hand about it. OCU folks should think about doing likewise about that fine program.

Now you are making wild accusations about erin's posts and jg's posts being back to back.....Erin is a BFA college graduate and jg is in high school and they do not know one another, nor have they attended the same summer programs ever. Are you looking for things to criticize?

If you are looking for rudeness, look at some posts on this thread by those attacking SDM and also on other threads. Telling others they have no talent and so forth and so on, is an attack. I don't see others attacking OCU at all. This is very clear to any astute observer.

Just ignore these bad people Kathy. You notice they just keep talking in circles? Any parent can spot a spoiled child. Speaks volumes for their Stagedoor, doesn't it?

Just remember there's no debate here. Just look at the websites. OCU is a serious, educational program where you get solid training. If you wanna go and roast a weenie and do a little skit, then Stagedoor is for you.

Some of us get it. And some of them are paid employees working for Stagedoor. Right jg? Anyone who tracks posts from a while ago is either a sicko stalker or an employee. Caught ya!

Updated On: 7/30/07 at 12:17 AM