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#51

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:29am

I personally thought that Washington and Berry deserved the Oscars in 2001. Washington deserved it over Crowe, whose performance in "A Beautiful Mind" just never convinced me.

Had Kidman been nominated for "The Others", as opposed to "Moulin Rouge", that would be a different story. Not that I don't love Baz Luhrmann's film, I do. It's one of my favorite films. However, Kidman's performance in Amenabar's ghost story was, I believe, the best performance of 2001. I'm still not sure why Naomi Watts and Steve Buscemi weren't nominated that year...

As for Foxx in "Collateral", he was brilliant. Both him and Cruise dropped their usual personas and formed one of the most dynamic screen duos of the year. Unfortunately, his role is the lead. Once again, that shows a great amount of disrespect and negligence for the actors who were clear supporting actors, like Munkustrap said. And why nominate him for two, when he's clearly going to win one of them?

Also, why nominated Eastwood (who received no precursos recognition for acting), over Giamatti, Bardem, and many other actors who were NOT also up for Best Director? So many questions this year... The AMPAS has officially lost my respect.

Munkustrap - I agree about the film version of "...World". While the performances were superlative, the film literally cut about half of the book.

#52

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:31am

He may have deserved it over Crowe, but over Smith in Ali? The only reason Washington won and not Smith was because no black actor has ever won 2 career Oscars before and they had to make a political statement. While they rarely are, the year of Washington and Berry, the Oscars were transparently not awarded on the strength of the nominated performance.

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#53

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:37am

I don't think anything in 'Collateral' was worthy of an Oscar nomination. Foxx played a nice guy. It wasn't interesting. Cruise played himself but he had a gun. It wasn't interesting. The fact that the movie tacked on three chase scenes only made it that much worse. It was a mediocre movie and neither performer elevated it beyond that.

#54

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:37am

Is it EVER possible that black actors win because they gave a brilliant performance????

Denzel was BRILLIANT in Training Day--no politics needed

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#55

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:38am

To me, "Collateral" had everything I could possibly want in an action film, and more.

#56

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:39am

Denzel was terrible in Training Day and Berry was shockingly laughably bad in Monster's Ball. Smith's performance was more deserving of the award but he didn't win it for political reasons, plain and simple.

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#57

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:40am

well that would be your OPINION, pop---many people thought that Denzel and Halle were Oscar worthy, so let's not start writing facts and history when we don't know for sure.

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#58

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:42am

where can i find a full list of nominations?

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#59

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:43am

http://www.oscar.com

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#60

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:44am

There is another thread on here that has the full nominations and they're also on www.oscar.com

And jrb, yes it's my opinion, but I am far far FAR from alone in it. If they wanted to be less obvious in their political award giving, they shouldn't have nominated Smith at all.

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#61

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:45am

"While they rarely are, the year of Washington and Berry, the Oscars were transparently not awarded on the strength of the nominated performance."

I thought Halle Berry gave the best performance of the year in a role that reasonably offended pretty much every African-American woman I know. She gets my vote on the strength of the performance.

I would've voted for Russell Crowe over Denzel Washington, but hey, that's just my opinion. Washington received enough critical acclaim prior to the Oscars for it to be accepted that his win was based on merit, and not race.

EDIT: The other film from that year that I think should've received some major attention for its acting was Mira Nair's MONSOON WEDDING, but I wouldn't be surprised if race (indifference to Indian films) factored into its not getting any nominations. I know a lot of people who loved it.

Updated On: 1/26/05 at 11:45 AM

#62

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:48am

The best performance of the year? Really? The woman can't act. At all. Not even a little bit. I was staggered at how wooden and stilted she was in Monster's Ball, especially as it was released in the UK post awards season.

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#63

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:49am

Have you seen Queen or Introducing Dorothy Dandridge?

#64

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:51am

"Denzel was terrible in Training Day"

How so? I'm assuming that you'll say he went over the top, but I don't believe that.

#65

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:51am

Nope. Those aren't readily available in the UK. But the films of Berry's that I have seen, she's been consistently dreadful.

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#66

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 11:57am

Well, you should order those films on DVD (they'll play in the UK) because Halle Berry gave two of her most acclaimed performances in them, respectively as a famed movie musical performer of Hollywood's Golden Age (Introducing Dorothy Dandridge) and as a biracial slave during the Civil War (Queen). She's also starring in the upcoming TV adaptation of Hurston's novel "Their Eyes Were Watching God." It's too bad that she's chosen to take on the title role in the remake of the blaxploitation film "Foxy Brown," which should be buried in cinematic history. If she were getting more of the classic literary roles and less of the "strut around in a thong with a gun" roles, she might be getting the respect that she deserves.

Updated On: 1/26/05 at 11:57 AM

#67

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 12:16pm

The Dorothy Dandridge film is called Face Of An Angel over here, I just found it on blockbuster.co.uk so I will rent it. Queen was nowhere to be found and I am far too poor to spend money on something I don't really want.

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#68

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 1:36pm

The fact that everyone has such strong and differing opinions in that one category just proves that the Oscars are just another group of people making their choices. Yes it's a study of the dirty side of politics, and yes it's publicized like hell. However, I think people take them way too seriously and I think once you do, they are much more enjoyable. However, it is very hard at times.

That said, I do understand why people get heated about this. The Oscars reward an artform, and art is so subjective that people get really passionate about it.

BTW, in my opinion on 2001, the nominees for Best Actress should have been:
Halle Berry, "Monster's Ball"
Maggie Cheung, "In the Mood for Love"
Isabelle Huppert, "The Piano Teacher"
Sissy Spaceck, "In the Bedroom"
with
Nicole Kidman, "The Others"/or Naomi Watts, "Muholland Drive

And, IMO Sissy Spacek would have gotten it for me.

For Best Actor, I would have taken away Will Smith's nomination for his impersonation and characture of a performance in Ali for Gene Hackman's performance in The Royal Tenenbaums, and Hackman would have won with Tom Wilkinson in In the Bedroom in second.

Best Supporting Actor should have been wrapped up and given to Steve Buscemi in Ghost World.

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#69

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 1:41pm

I didn't think so much of Halle in the Dorothy Dandridge film. I don't think she's a great actress and I wouldn't have given her the Oscar for 'Monster's Ball.' She was solid in it but, well, I think it takes more than solid to win an Oscar. (I probably would have given it to Spacek, even though I didn't think 'In the Bedroom' was an especially good movie.)

#70

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 1:48pm

I think Berry can be really amatuerish at times, but I think she gave a great performance in Monster's Ball...a performance that I didn't think she was capable of. People always tell me that her performance lacked subtley and was just her playing a stereotype.
I disagree with it because I saw a lot of conflicting emotion that Berry portrayed as a alcoholic mother who wanted to beat her son and overly hug him...a woman who rather drink and forget her troubles than having to actually deal with her problems, a woman who finally found comfort, though it is just superficial needs, she gets some sort of therapy out of it. I'm probably in a major minority in thinking this, but I thought Berry portrayed all the conflicts of her character very well.

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#71

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 1:59pm

"For Best Actor, I would have taken away Will Smith's nomination for his impersonation and characture of a performance in Ali for Gene Hackman's performance in The Royal Tenenbaums, and Hackman would have won with Tom Wilkinson in In the Bedroom in second."

I agree with this, although Crowe or Hackman would have been fine by me. Will Smith's performance in Ali is one of the worst Oscar-nominated performances I've ever seen. The film itself seems like it could have used another phase of editing.

#72

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 2:05pm

The film itself seems like it could have used another phase of editing.

Like every other Michael Mann movie then.

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#73

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 2:06pm

Like every other Michael Mann movie then.

Heehee.

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#74

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 2:07pm

My nominations for 2001:

Best Picture (Drama)
AI: Artificial Intelligence
Donnie Darko
In the Bedroom
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Mulholland Drive*

Best Picture (Musical/Comedy)
Ghost World
Legally Blonde
Moulin Rouge*
Ocean's Eleven
The Royal Tenenbaums

Best Director
Robert Altman, Gosford Park
Peter Jackson, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Baz Luhrmann, Moulin Rouge
David Lynch, Mulholland Drive*
Ridley Scott, Black Hawk Down

Best Actor (Drama)
Jake Gyllenhaal, Donnie Darko
Haley Joel Osment, AI: Artificial Intelligence
Sean Penn, I Am Sam
Will Smith, Ali
Billy Bob Thornton, The Man Who Wasn't There
Denzel Washington, Training Day*

Best Actor (Musical/Comedy) (tie)
Hugh Jackman, Kate & Leopold
Gene Hackman, The Royal Tenenbaums*
Ewan McGregor, Moulin Rouge*
John Cameron Mitchell, Hedwig and the Angry Itch
Ben Stiller, Zoolander (I will be murdered for that one)
Billy Bob Thornton, Bandits

Best Actress (Drama)
Halle Berry, Monster's Ball
Judi Dench, Iris
Nicole Kidman, The Others*
Sissy Spacek, In the Bedroom
Tilda Swinton, The Deep End
Naomi Watts, Mulholland Drive

Best Actress (Musical/Comedy)
Thora Birch, Ghost World
Kirsten Dunst, The Cat's Meow
Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge
Sigourney Weaver, Heartbreakers
Reese Witherspoon, Legally Blonde*
Renee Zellweger, Bridget Jones's Diary

Best Supporting Actor (Drama)
Brian Cox, L.I.E.
Ethan Hawke, Training Day
Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast
Jude Law, AI: Artificial Intelligence
Ian McKellen, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring*
Jon Voight, Ali

Best Supporting Actor (Musical/Comedy)
Jim Broadbent, Moulin Rouge
Steve Buscemi, Ghost World*
Ray Liotta, Heartbreakers
Carl Reiner, Ocean's Eleven
Owen Wilson, The Royal Tenenbaums
Steve Zahn, Riding in Cars with Boys

Best Supporting Actress (Drama)
Jennifer Connelly, A Beautiful Mind
Judi Dench, The Shipping News
Cameron Diaz, Vanilla Sky
Carrie-Anne Moss, Memento
Uma Thurman, Tape
Marisa Tomei, In the Bedroom*

Best Supporting Actress (Musical/Comedy)
Cate Blanchett, Bandits
Anjelica Huston, The Royal Tenenbaums
Helen Mirren, Gosford Park
Brittany Murphy, Sidewalks of New York*
Gwyneth Paltrow, The Royal Tenenbaums
Maggie Smith, Gosford Park

Best Original Screenplay
Wes Anderson & Owen Wilson, The Royal Tenenbaums*
Joel Coen & Ethan Coen, The Man Who Wasn't There
Julian Fellowes, Gosford Park
Richard Kelly, Donnie Darko
David Lynch, Mulholland Drive

Best Adapted Screenplay
Daniel Clowes & Terry Zwigoff, Ghost World*
Todd Field & Robert Festinger, In the Bedroom
Christopher Nolan, Memento
Steven Spielberg, AI: Artificial Intelligence
Frances Walsh, Philippa Boyens, & Peter Jackson, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring

#75

re: Oscar Nominations

Posted: 1/26/05 at 2:12pm

THAT'S who directed Ali? Oh my god, talk about overrated! But at least I got to see Jamie Foxx and Will Smith fat, which is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

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