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#126

re: Oscar Nominations

Because obviously most of the people you have named gave those performances in a time where race was a major issue and a very iffy-thing. Not that it's right, but just that it's not relevant to the conversation about Berry/Denzel/Foxx. There are also many many many white actors who haven't been recognized for their work. But no one mentions them - only the African Americans. It's very irritating.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#127

re: Oscar Nominations

Like who???
Hope Davis, for example?
Well, when Hope Davis moves to Hollywood and starts kissing white executive a$$, then she'll be nominated, and may even win the award, depending on how good she can kiss that a$$
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#128

re: Oscar Nominations

I'm not going to generate an entire list of white actors, that's stupid. I just hate the fact that race always seems to be an issue - whether it's a true issue or not, people alwyas make it into that.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#129

re: Oscar Nominations

They make it into that when it is as Evident as the Oscar committee. Anyone notice that no one screams "Race Riot" over the Tony's??? That is because credit is given where credit is due.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#130

re: Oscar Nominations

The press makes race to be an issue in the context of awards. Just look at the Tonys and Phylicia Rashad. I don't recall her making her blackness a big issue in her acceptance speech, and yet a plurality (or majority) of articles about her win concentrated on the significance of her winning as an African-American woman.
#131

re: Oscar Nominations

That is because her win went down in history as the FIRST black woman to win an award in that category.
At the same time, black people have been nominated/recognized for their work in the theatre, which is why, even when the press makes issues, no one else does.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#132

re: Oscar Nominations

Justice, you are forgetting that a number of black actors HAVE been nominated over the years--including people on your list.

Hattie McDaniel won in 1939.

My comments stand as there just weren't great and/or high profile roles for black actors in the earlier part of the 20th century.

But, more importantly, I am tired of hearing how this year's race is political. There are 5 performances by black actors nominated this year. Plus, one latina. It was a good year in film--and the Best Actor race was especially tight--Giamatti was not nominated. I do not think that the actors of the Academy who are (I would imagine) of the same liberal mindset as our stage actors (many being both) would sit around voting with race on their mind. I think people see the performance. And they nominate the performance. And they vote for the performance (or in some cases, yes, the body of work). I feel the blame for lack of high profile roles goes to the studios who don't greenlight such work. Or to the audiences who don't give as much support. It's the same problem in theatre--hell, look at Gem of the Ocean. A brilliant play with a beautiful production that is closing because people are not buying tickets.

I'm just tired of hearing the belittling of various actors and the credibility of the Academy just because some of you don't agree with their choices.

However, munk does make a point--why does Foxx bring it up? Why did Halle? Because it does mean something--but that doesn't mean that it is indeed the result of political correctness.

And, as I understand it, Ms. Rashad was not even aware that she was the first black Best Actress in a Play Tony winner until she got backstage. And, it is indeed sh!tty that the statistic became more of the story than the fact that she won for giving a groundbreaking performance.

This is an interesting issue. :)
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Updated On: 1/28/05 at 03:12 AM

#134

re: Oscar Nominations

"Hattie McDaniel won in 1939."

Yes, I know, and as I mentioned on an earlier post. Ms. McDaniel was forced to sit in the back, next to the kitchen, away from everyone else.
And what's even more sad, Oscar winning McDaniel was refused burial in the Hollywood Cemetary. Finally, a few years ago, her body was moved there and given proper burial, because the man who refused her no longer ran the cemetary.




"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#135

re: Oscar Nominations

I'm just tired of hearing the belittling of various actors and the credibility of the Academy just because some of you don't agree with their choices.

Amen.

BTW Justice, a lot of people on your list have been nominated. Just because they haven't won doesn't mean the Academy didn't recognize their work. A nomination in itself is recognition.
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#136

re: Oscar Nominations

As a change of pace, am I the only one who felt that Jim Carrey was kind of unimpressive in the otherwise fantastic "Eternal Sunshine"? I mean, he was good and all, but...
#137

re: Oscar Nominations

Well, he was either running around, crying, or asleep for the entire movie - there's not much to be found there anyway.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#138

re: Oscar Nominations

Eh, pardon me, but I think Jim Carrey is nominated for best actor. At least I think he is.

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