Protesting the RNC! — Page 7

jrb, I have no idea what you're talking about in your second statement. I'm not in high school and don't have those high school agendas anymore.

As far as your first statement, understanding that neither platform is all good nor all bad does not make me a flip-flopper. You seem to want everyone to agree 100% with you, or have to find something wrong with their views. That's not very democratic nor American. The whole point of America is that everyone is free to have their own views and opinions. If you don't agree, you can vote to change it. Attacking people whose views are different than yours is exactly what you hate about the other party. Ironic, eh?

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Updated On: 8/29/04 at 02:30 PM

You are twisting what I am saying--and I never attacked anyone. Don't overly dramatise this.


I don't want people to 100% agree with me. I just want them to know when they are wrong.

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Updated On: 8/29/04 at 02:33 PM

spider, lady, and rathnait- i've been really impressed so far with your posts. it takes a lot of guts to stand up for yourself when people want things... polorized. i set up a nice orange couch in the middle, and it's quite humorous to watch people go "respect me! believe what i believe!" and someone else say "no dawg you be respectin ME, believe what i believe!" and wonder exactly how it got to this. folks, please keep the posts intelligent and non-attacking... it's fabulous to see all the angles represented here.

It's funny that we have to argue no religion in government. It shouldn't have to be argued. It's the way it should be. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. It's in ink in our lawmaking documents.

The Democratic platform isn't against gay marriage, is it? It's not even present in the platform at all? Again, not perfect, but better ignored than directly attacked any day.

Okay, jrb, you do get it, and I'm glad. There are others on this board who seem to believe that electing Kerry will automatically propel gays to equal status in this country.

And bwaysinger, the way the platform handles it is to say they are leaving the issue up to the individual states. In other words, they don't want to touch it.

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i am very disappointed in you, jrb. for all your rhetoric, you're at home typing while the real warriors for change are marching. how could you stay home and miss this event? why were you not out there where the bullet hits the bone? that goes for all of you nyers who are here whining while others are marching.

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Honestly?

I spent an evening trying to locate buttons and t-shirts for this week. I just wanted simple stuff like "W" or a pic of Dubya with a line through it. Or pro-Kerry items. I came across more than my share of nutty people I want to. See--I do not consider myself or Kerry to be anywhere near the extreme Left. You want that--go to Revolution Bookstore. Go to Union Square. I hadn't had someone try to convert me so hard since girls in college and Fundamentalist Christians! I was very reminded of that fantastic moment in Laughing Wild that describes going to the Harmonic Convergence.

My grip with Bush isn't so much the war. So, I don't really have any desire to go to a war protest. Plus, I have been working so much this week (and so much next week)--the thought of getting up early and going into the city to walk all day and risk getting arrested (which I can not afford) wasn't what I needed today.

I am protesting with my icon, my shirts, my buttons. My taking part in debates online and elsewhere. My contributions to the campaign. My vote on November 2.

But to really be honest. I really don't know that I do feel that passionate about protesting the RNC. The Republicans have the right to convention. The protestors have the right to be heard. And, I have the right to rest today as I just didn't feel passionately enough about protesting in that manner.

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oh, papa, I see you aren't going to actually read what I said--just take joy in thinking that I am being a hypocrite or that I am letting others do the heavy lifting. If any of the protests were indicative of my gripes with Bush or the Republicans, I would be there.

Why weren't you in Boston? Why aren't you out there protesting the protest?

Don't throw stones.

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I entered the conversation in this thread when it changed to the Log Cabin issue. But, I have taken part in the rest of the debate in this thread.

And, you most certainly WERE hell on wheels on here during the DNC--remember that I told you to expect the same treatment this week because of so.

I don't live in the safety of cyberspace. It may be surprising to you--but you don't know everything about me. And, I have made myself a walking protest sign with my t-shirts and buttons--walking alone in NYC--not standing safely with thousands. So, don't get all excited that you have exposed me for anything.

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IS this protest the only way to protest or to be active?

I already told you why I did not wish to participate today. And, yet, you feel the need to make generalized statements.

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nowhere as many.

And I hate to disappoint, but I am not some crazy, violent activist.

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I did a search and didn't find anything about violent protesting, but I could be looking in the wrong places, or using the wrong phrases. I did find a right winged pre-protesting article about protesters wanting to "tear up central park", but not getting the permit.