Ralph Nader is running

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 11:19am

Just got finished watching him on Meet the Press. I don't think he's going to find the support he found last election, I do have to say however, a lot of what he said made sense.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 11:31am

If he holds up a swirling hypnodisc, Erik, do NOT look at it!

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 12:15pm

I know I'm being redundant, but wtf is Nader thinking? He can't possibly not comprehend what is at stake here, can he? I've always had a lot of respect for him, and even voted for him on occasion. His stature, in my eyes, is shrinking precipitously.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 12:49pm

I wish he'd go back to auto safety. He's done so much for auto safety.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:19pm

Well...I certainly don't have any plans to vote for him. But I think he was used as the scapegoat in the last election. After all, he was not the only other candidate on the ticket, and if any one of those other independents didn't run..their florida votes probably would have gone to Gore. So why blame Nader? More importantly...why not blame Ms. Harris for stealing the election?

[Jack42]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:25pm

I NOMINATE RICHARD GOLDSTEIN

Who seconds?

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:36pm

Which one of them?

[Jack42]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:39pm

YES. Exactly!

Updated On: 2/22/04 at 03:39 PM

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:41pm

Can "The Many Faces of Richard Goldstein: The Musical" be far off?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:47pm

So I guess we could have a Richard Goldstein for President and his running mate could be Richard Goldstein. And, natch, his Secretary of State would be none other than Richard Goldstein.

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:50pm

Campaign slogan:

RG3: Voice of the Village and the World

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:53pm

You're a genius, Richard.

[Jack42]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 3:57pm

And the tell all book about the road to the White House would be called "Me, Myself and I"

And no Richard, YOU are genius!

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 4:01pm

Vote for Goldstein/Goldstein : One Namo/ One Voice

Updated On: 2/22/04 at 04:01 PM

[Jack42]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 4:04pm

Our theme song would be by Roger (Richard Goldstein) Whitaker

I am but a small voice
I am but a small dream
The fragrance of a flow'r
In the unpolluted air

I am but a small voice
I am but a small dream
To smile upon the sun
Be free to dance and sing
Be free to sing my song to ev'ryone

Chorus:
Come young citizens of the world
We are one, we are one
Come young citizens of the world
We are one, we are one

We have one hope
We have one dream
And with one voice
We sing...

Peace, prosperity
And love for all mankind

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 4:22pm

That brought a tear to my eye!

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 4:36pm

Maybe all the Richard Goldsteins could form a chorus and sell CDs of their songs to raise campaign funds. It could be called La Dolce Voce: Richard Goldsteins Sing.

[Auggie27]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 5:41pm

Have an eggroll, Mr. Goldstein...

And back to the topic: Does anyone think Ralph will make it on the ballot this time? I think the ever expanding A.B.B. sentiment will create an instant, sustainable backlash. (Did anyone read the Times piece today, about the Republicans in Ohio who've had it with Bush? It's anacdoctal evidence only, but I was quite intrigued to read that there's a growing movement of "closet" Bush denouncers). We're coming off a tough couple of years, Nader's advocacy -- even though sensible, as Erik opined -- rings out as self-serving, because there's no reality check. If people determined Dean to un-electable against Bush, how could they decided otherwise about the very sour unpersonabe, Nader? He's so beyond outside the beltway, he could never connnect with the political process.

Anyway, Ralph has raised, gasp, 150,000 so far. Not enough for a TV commercial in East Bumf--k, Nebraska. His arrogant supposition that the web will do for him what it did for Dean is wishful thinking. I honestly think he is assuming the Dean-or-nobody folk will come running. I'm holding my breath, hoping Howard -- who can now play Democratic bad cop if it so moves him -- tells his followers to stick with the Kerry/Edwards Trojan Horse. I loved the Gov. of NM who called Nader's act one of total ego.

Updated On: 2/22/04 at 05:41 PM

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 6:55pm

A musical about Ralph Nader? I saw it the first time, back when it was "Man of La Mancha".

To dreeeeeeeeeem.......

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 7:56pm

i may have to give ol' ralphie boy a bit sloppy wet kiss on the lips. not that he's going to draw anywhere near what he did in 2000. he was only on i think in 46 states that time anyway, but he'll be lucky to get that this time. however, john anderson started as late as april in 1980 and managed to get on the ballot in all 50 states, plus d.c. although he did have the power of the independant party behind him. i myself will be contacting as many billionaires for bush as i can and finding one to bankroll ralphie and make sure that his voice is heard loudly enough to siphen off as many of the more rabid of the left siders as is possible.

all that said, this is totally ego and is the failed result of ralph trying to blackmail the parties. he took a list of demands to both parties and was willing to forego a candidacy if either party was willing to take up his issues. the g.o.p. i believe told him that they were willing to take them up if he would promise them that he'd both run and allow karl rove to manage his campaign from afar.

if you folks don't get edwards on the ballot, ralph will look good to a lot of the loonier folk in your fold. electability be damned, they'll vote their consciences and more power to them, especially since their votes will help keep my boy gw in power.

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 8:35pm

Oh, papa....Mr Iflit wants the fam to drive out to Ohio next weekend to volunteer for Edwards' big push preceding Super Tuesday for exactly the reasons you brought up. It's about electability against Bush, and I think Edwards would fare better than Kerry. Edwards has a similar experience level compared to what Bush brought to the office (one term gov vs one term senator) but doesn't have Kerry's lengthy record with enough inconsistencies for the Rovers to have a field day to defend. Is Edwards the perfect answer? No. But he's looking more and more like the most reasonable solution.

[Auggie27]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 10:35pm

Oh, Papaloves and Iflit, I am the biggest fan of both of you, for decidedly different reasons ... but I don't believe Edwards is the dude to dethrone Bush the Second. No. I spent the weekend int he company of an odd cross section of complicated Republicans, and they all, to a man/woman, think Edwards will be perceived as far too lightweight to be a serious, viable alternative. (They also believe Cheney will step down, and, as I have posted here, therein lies one of the surprises Karl has in store for us.) Even as Nader was announcing, however, they also voiced a reality check: this ain't 2000, and Nader's voice will have more of a rarified Sharpton timber than an Andersonian or even Perot-like sound. He's the wrong breath of not-so-fresh air in this election, no matter how sound the ideas. His demeanor which used to represent the too-oft-concerns of the common man, now seems arrogant, mean-spirited, and self-righteous.

I repeat: If Dean couldn't past those labels, how can this gawky beenpole who doesn't even speak politics? The rogue shark Bill Nye The Science Guy package never worked for him in a season more amenable to his eccentricities; how can he even have a profile in this of all years?

Updated On: 2/22/04 at 10:35 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/22/04 at 10:59pm

I'm the biggest fan of all three of you!

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 2/23/04 at 9:33am

first let me say that i love you guys, man. *sniff, sniff*

ok that being said, how many emails did you folks get this morning warning about the nader candidacy? if anybody needs secret service protection it's ralphie boy.

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 2/23/04 at 9:41am

I can't love any of you. My heart belongs to Eddie Varley.