'Rolling Stone' Tsarnaev cover stirs firestorm — Page 3
Posted: 7/18/13 at 11:49am
If only I were qualified to psychoanalyze them. I have a family member who fell for an inmate with a felony conviction, with whom she grew up. Her explanation was "all the real men are behind bars" which I'm still trying to wrap my brain around.
What is even more incredible to me is how female prison guards in a Baltimore correction facility willingly allowed themselves to be impregnated by a prison gang leader. And it cuts across ethnic and socioeconomic lines. I don't mean to reduce the issue to a single gender either. It's just that I have no first-hand knowledge of the reverse scenario.
Sorry for digressing. I don't care for the cover but don't hate on RS for being mindful of the bottom line. I'm convinced that we all are capable of showing questionable judgment at times and that would not exclude RS.
Baltimore jail case depicts a corrupt culture driven by drugs, money and sex
Posted: 7/18/13 at 11:58am
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:08pm
Henrik, I am sorry once again that you are attacked for attempting thoughtful conversation. Some people...
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:18pm
"can get a thrill...."
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:23pm
Don't like it, don't buy it. Plain and simple. YOU, whoever you are, are offended. That's something YOU need to deal with in your own, personal way. I'm personally offended by straight women who think the Castro bars are their playground, but I don't go to Mayor Lee and have them banned.
Anyway, here's my favorite parody:
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:33pm
I wonder if those of you who are supporting this decision or dismissing the offensive nature would also be comfortable with Rolling Stone doing the same for the nineteen 9/11 terrorists only months following the attack. I would venture to say you would feel differently even though it's the same. However, if you can honestly say you'd have no problem with it, then I would worry about you and believe there is some kind of emotional disconnect.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:33pm
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:34pm
Jane, another thing, I think one reason I interpret it the way I do, and which others here have helped me to focus on, is because I myself find it jarring and uncomfortable to see this photo of Tsarnaev, and in asking myself why I find it jarring and uncomfortable to see his picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone, I find myself thinking very much along the lines of what the article is attempting to bring out about who Tsarnaev is; which is why I find the iconography so compelling.
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Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:38pm
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:42pm
And to answer your question, no...if a magazine of any kind did an in-depth article on the 19 hijackers, I wouldn't have a problem with their pictures being used on the cover.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:49pm
I'm assuming people never even see Rolling Stone, let alone read it. There's is at least one poliitcal feature in every issue. Occasionally these features make the cover. Yes, sometimes it's a stupid person from Glee or the like on the cover, sometimes it's politicians, sometimes it somebody from the news. It's as much a news magazine as it is an "entertainment" magazine.
The thing about publications is, the next issue comes out and the last is out in the recycling.
I'm wondering, why haven't people read the article? As I said, what's disappointing is that there's nothing new in it.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 12:51pm
Posted: 7/18/13 at 1:03pm
lol, almost all my opinions here are unpopular, so I have tons of experience with that one!
Anyway, Henrik, as I've often said, I enjoy a good, heated debate over issues here, and these are only opinions in a thread.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 2:28pm
I guess what I'm asking is, would people have the same reaction if this was TIME or THE NEW YORKER or, hell, even ADVOCATE?
I apologize if this has been asked and answered already.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 2:35pm
Liza's, I don't think I would be likely to feel outrage about the 9/11 terrorists being on the cover of Rolling Stone I've seen many pariahs on the covers of magazines, including Hitler and Stalin as Time coverboys (no, not at the time they were so featured, I'm not that old).
I don't see making a magazine cover (whether or not they can cook too, Hildy!) as a reward or validation.
Rolling Stone usually has very different kinds of cover subjects, and its cover is typically identified with its subject's cache, of an artist having made it, which is adding I think to the reaction.
But they also cover very different kinds of subjects and are known for some intrepid political reporting as well as music journalism.
Updated On: 7/18/13 at 02:35 PM
Posted: 7/18/13 at 3:05pm
...and why is anyone even surprised at this. Rolling Stone had Charles Manson on it's cover a mere 9 months after the Tate/LaBianca murders.
Updated On: 7/18/13 at 03:05 PM
Posted: 7/18/13 at 3:11pm
I might be the exception, but I'm not phased by his looks nor background story. He's a heinous criminal and I object to his gracing the cover of RS. It doesn't go any deeper than that for me.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 3:27pm
Also noted here, Tsarnaev is still under the principle innocent until proven guilty. Except for a few cases, we Americans tend to have a short-term memory in general and don't think and analyze on a lot of things. I too don't see it as glorification like with SonofRobbieJ, but I can see why others be emotionally upset with it. As long as the article is in-depth, that's what matters to me. We should learn what forces are involved in making Tsarnaev allegedly commit the terrible acts.
Here's an excellent essay that gives some further in-depth thoughts that should be added with the Rolling Stone cover story, should you read that. There are others too that you can find online.
Is There A Chechen Connection To The Boston Bombings?
Posted: 7/18/13 at 3:48pm
Also noted here, Tsarnaev is still under the principle innocent until proven guilty. Except for a few cases, we Americans tend to have a short-term memory in general and don't think and analyze on a lot of things.
Jesus Christ. First of all, the "principle" is that a suspect is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty. It is not that they ARE innocent and then all of a sudden they are not.
As for the sentence that follows that, Jesus Christ.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 4:12pm
Well done, Rolling Stone Magazine.
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Posted: 7/18/13 at 4:18pm
Posted: 7/18/13 at 4:35pm
Short of ending up on Teen Beat, they're really hitting the right age group for readers now.
I don't think we have to worry about AARP Magazine.
EDIT: And yes, I do think that certainly some terrorists are aware of who reads what. They can be a "rock star" now.
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Updated On: 7/18/13 at 04:35 PM
Posted: 7/18/13 at 6:15pm
"that's what matters to me."
Icehouse - it's all relative. Recognizing the bomber with a rather glamorous picture on the cover of a national publication, which is quite unnecessary, is what matters to those who lost limbs, lives, and loved ones in the bombing. It's just distasteful. Would have been nicer for RS to honor the victims, even if they wanted to do a feature story on the bomber. That might have balanced it out. But let's be real, RS knew what it was doing. They were trying to stir up controversy and garner some much needed press (good AND bad) because sales have dropped over the last several years. Each person will have their own opinion but I personally feel they're all assholes for the decision.
Posted: 7/18/13 at 6:22pm
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