Sarah Palin's Daughter Preganant. Babygate Scandal Getting Ready to Explode- Page 8

[roquat]

Posted: 9/1/08 at 11:35pm

I don't know that the Republicans will be as crippled by Palin's family drama as we seem to expect. Social conservatives (who got Bush into office twice) are going nuts over her, particularly anti-abortion activists, gun enthusiasts, evangelicals, and similar charmers. That may be all McCain needs to win in the battleground states.

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 9/1/08 at 11:36pm

Not really, Romantico. I think the damage has already been done for not vetting his pick carefully.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 9/1/08 at 11:37pm

This is NOT helping McCain. Sorry, roquat.

[javero]

Posted: 9/1/08 at 11:42pm

It pains me to put this out, but if he picks either Lieberman or Romney the evangelicals will part ways with McCain for reasons that I just don't have the nerve to point out.

There's still a huge gulf between GOP social conservatives (read evangelicals) and fiscal conservatives (followers of Romney). Romney would have never been able to become the governor of a state from the old south. Palin would be welcomed in every way today.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 9/1/08 at 11:43pm

She galvanizes the evangelical vote. Though I think she may lose some of them. I don't think she appeals to the Indie vote at all. We'll have to see how polling goes if she gets the nomination.

And, I know some evangelicals who are voting for Obama/Biden. I was shocked.

[javero]

Posted: 9/1/08 at 11:48pm

"And, I know some evangelicals who are voting for Obama/Biden. I was shocked."

One of them is my 60-something Mom in NC who admitted to me two days that she is "pro-choice". Upon learning of McCain's pick she said "I'm sick of men sitting around plotting how to control every aspect of women's lives". She also concluded with "that woman (Sarah Palin) needs to tend to her family business first and leave running states and country's to someone else".

[romantico]

Posted: 9/1/08 at 11:56pm

This would not be the first time this has happened. In 1972 Eagleton stepped down as McGovern's running mate when it was discovered that he had received electro-shock therapy for depression.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17453791/

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 12:06am

I do not see how this can continue! She is not qualified, she was not vetted, McCain hardly even knows her. This is a charade and a mockery of democracy! McCain should suck it up and admit that he made a mistake!

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 12:06am

I actually wanted to hear her debate Biden.

[romantico]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 12:12am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTbsbeY5k5k&eurl

Joe Scarborough sounds pissed here because Joe is actually more qualified than Sarah.

Why did Palin and McCain subject Bristol to this?

Updated On: 9/2/08 at 12:12 AM

[wicked_beast4]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 12:36am

http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=839564461&pl=840152210.xml&plc=840152210&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml


I love Obama. He is so right.

[cubanpab]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 12:38am

Someone please tell me they just saw bill oreilly on fox saying he's an independent. He had a republican strategist on, talking about palins daughter, saying the Obama camp is "viscious", and he then proceeded to say he's an independent.

When the repub strategist started to speak billy said "well I'll let you speak for the GOP because you're committed to the right and I'm an independent".

With a straight face.

I laughed till my stomach hurt.
Updated On: 9/2/08 at 12:38 AM

[javero]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 12:52am

May I be honest.

Both parties have their elite establishment types of which neither McCain (nor Obama before now) was. There is still internecine warfare going on between the paleocons and neocons within the GOP. The latter only "uses" the evangelicals for votes because most couldn't stand up to the scrutiny of the evangelicals if they ran for POTUS with the possible exception of Buchanan. If that were not the the case, both Buchanan and Huckabee would have emerged as nominees when each ran.

Yes, the GOP treats its evangelical block the same way the Democrats treated gays, women and ethnic minorities in the past at times. Obama and Hillary re-invigorated and re-invented their party. McCain stands on the cusp of doing the same with his but I believe he's facing far stiffer opposition from the neocons that have a stranglehold on it.

The real reason that Palin will be "tolerated" is because she can get ANWR open for drilling. That's all the foreign affairs background she needs. McCain is willing to set aside his previous position because it would give him an energy supply to perpetuate his global war on terror. ANWR will fuel the war on terror over the long haul.

I don't see Palin replaced on the ticket, unless a scandal emerges that could provoke the ire of the evangelical base. So far, she's only galvanized support in that regard.


for any doubters

Updated On: 9/2/08 at 12:52 AM

[Q]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 1:51am

I can no longer pretend to be able to take any of this seriously.

I can't even imagine what real thinkers around the world are feeling . . .

THIS is the current state of American 'process'?!?!?

It's all too much of a joke - and the continued approach of 'it has some meaning as originally intended' is insulting.

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 2:00am

Okay, so if Bristol is 5 months pregnant, then Trig can't be hers. Maybe Bristol isn't really pregnant, but she's rocking left over baby weight. Maybe they are faking THIS pregnancy to cover up the last one.

I am all about conspiracies!

[NGD47]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 2:10am

She against Gay marrige but she sure will go see Beauty & The Beast.


What an EVIL bitch.

Updated On: 9/2/08 at 02:10 AM

[supportivemom]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 6:58am

The GOP will not replace SP because then they'd have to admit they made a mistake! They are touting her for being courageous and brave and that she's a tough cookie! I hope O/B kill them in the debates!

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 8:21am

But....she could pull the "for the sake of my children, I am dropping out of the race to spare them the spotlight" BS. Since she already threw Bristol under the bus, it would be too little too late to win any Good Mothering awards in my eyes, but they could spin it to be acceptable to some folks.

[supportivemom]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 8:35am

I have been hearing so many women on interviews saying Bristol is being moral by choosing to have her baby. What about her immoral act of having sex before marriage when she is still a teenager? (immoral in terms of Christian values of abstinence before marriage). I can't believe some people feel stronger about Pallin due to this revelation. Jeez- this is the BEST candidate McCain could find for VP? Just way too much drama! I don't even like the fact that they had Bristol holding Sarah's baby to cover up her baby bump- it just seems so manipulative! Just sayin'

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 9:15am

This is my favorite OT thread in a very, very long time.

[javero]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 9:53am

Heaven help us, she's been noted as having "Sarah-dipity".

[Auggie27]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 10:28am

I'm losing my effing mind re this. The GOP-bot on Larry King last night, dosed with whatever they take to sustain a ferral grin and yet avoid blinking on camera, insisted that our new VP candidate has more experience than EITHER biden or Obama. Larry King almost choked on his tongue, he was so startled. The new spin on this nightmare, apparently, requires a delusional embrace of her mayoral years as a definitive resume line that trumps any other experience. We're supposed to buy this merely because they speak it. And pretend the cover-up by this "values-embracing choice" -- let's say it, LIES -- has no relevance in this effing campaign. Mary Matalin appeared this a.m. to recycle the same lame argument -- she shoved her pregnant daughter forward only to stop the vicious liberal rumors about her not carrying her other baby. In other words, if those rumors didn't exist, we'd still be in the dark about little Bismal's pregnancy? Has anyone seen a moment in this culture as bizarre?

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 10:41am

"I have been hearing so many women on interviews saying Bristol is being moral by choosing to have her baby. What about her immoral act of having sex before marriage when she is still a teenager?"

Oh, don'tcha know? When its a good, well-off Republican white girl its a celebration of values!


It's only immoral and thus worthy of a lot of condescending lectures when it happens to poor black and Latino people.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 10:41am

Auggie, that chick last night scared the CRAP outta me! Her glazed over eyes and half smile/smirk were like from a horror movie!

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 9/2/08 at 10:43am

Oh, and the father! He just sounds like a "f--kin" prize!