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[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/10/12 at 4:13am

Late night hate watch! Yay!

[artscallion]

Posted: 11/10/12 at 8:47am

Eric, do you have any more info on that? I can't find the episode on iTunes or anywhere else, even on the show's site where you can watch full episodes.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/10/12 at 7:54pm

Arts this is the article http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/31/the-new-normal-halloween-episode_n_2051904.html

I found the episode by chance on a torrents site, where I download most TV (it was either eztv.it or piratebay). Hope that helps!

[myprettycabinet]

Posted: 11/10/12 at 9:42pm

I downloaded it, and I'm watching it now. Holy ****, all this time off from it, I forgot how bad it is. Just got a crotch-shot on a 6-ish year old transgendered boy in a bathing suit.

Joy.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/11/12 at 12:10am

I expected someone to bring that up! Come on, that's *groundbreaking* progress!

[myprettycabinet]

Posted: 11/11/12 at 12:18am

I HATE that Ryan Murphy is the one doing all these *groundbreaking* things. If it were nearly anyone else in charge, it would be dealt with infinitely better, instead I find myself eye-rolling at his obvious agenda. If I'm eye-rolling, then I reckon most other people are too.

Has anyone here also watched Go On? I find they have been doing a surprisingly good job at just making some people gay and some people not gay in a way that is SO much more progressive than The New Normal, as well as ACTUALLY succeeding in portraying a *real* new normal.

[artscallion]

Posted: 11/11/12 at 7:08am

Thanks, Eric! I'll search the torrents.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/11/12 at 3:38pm

I kinda hate to say it, but I thought it was overwall a sweet episode. It answered some of my issues with the show and made me tear up a bit. This(being Ryan Murphy) means I will hate him all the more at the new episode.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/11/12 at 3:40pm

I just wonder if there's something in the next episode about how Goldie is no longer being sued for custody, since that was actually a major plot resolution in this episode that most people won't have seen.

The meta moment talking about Ellen Barkin's character through Endora was kind of funny, although I had no idea in her time Endora was considered a controversial character.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/12/12 at 4:49pm

I'm not sure if she was--I wouldn't put it past Murphy and crew to make that up just to allow that line (though I admit, I laughed). And yeah, there seemed to be a few plot points cleared up in this episode that I wonder if anything will be added now that it's being skipped.

[myprettycabinet]

Posted: 11/12/12 at 4:58pm

I do agree that it was a relatively nice episode. I wonder what you guys thought of the entirely non-explicit pre-sex scene that was interrupted by Shania. I have to say it was kinda ballsy. Right? I dunno.

I thought the Endora joke was dumb. Probably because it wasn't meta to me, because I hate Barkin's character, no question about it, and I haven't heard of anyone else not sure whether to love her or hate her. The opinion has been pretty unanimous. It's like he's being more and more obvious/desperate about how he wants her character to be that, but no one's playing along.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/12/12 at 5:05pm

"It's like he's being more and more obvious/desperate about how he wants her character to be that, but no one's playing along."

That's definitely how Murphy plays anything, IMHO. Including those interviews he gives--he basically explains things as being what he wants them to be.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/12/12 at 5:11pm

Oh, I hear plenty of people say they love Nana because she's so outrageous! I mean, we all hate her in this thread, but I think this thread is more of an echo chamber than a sampling of what the viewing public things of the show.

[myprettycabinet]

Posted: 11/12/12 at 5:14pm

lol, that is true - I don't actually have anyone other than you guys to talk to about the show. This and articles I've read complaining about it.

Sigh @ people loving her. I guess the whole cast loves the character too. I swear, if I hear them describe her as an "equal-opportunities offender" one more time...



Updated On: 11/12/12 at 05:14 PM

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/12/12 at 5:43pm

"I swear, if I hear them describe her as an "equal-opportunities offender" one more time... "

This has come up in the thread before, but that's what Ryan always hides behind. It's like King's defence of the racism in 2 Broke Girls ("Hey I'm gay and I tell gay jokes on the show ALL THE TIME, so it's fine"). I did get a sense with this Halloween episode that they were bringing down Nana's character a little (and we finally saw at least one slightly pleasant quality about her), so I hope that's a trend--but Murphy's shows tend to have a bad quality of seeming to catch on to their problems and improve them and then suddenly wildly swinging back.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/13/12 at 10:28pm

"Since I'm staying here until they deliver this baby."

Since when/why?

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 3:37am

I think it's a continued path to make Nana more likeable. The problem is still in the writing (she's so prudish about sex but says some of the most bizarre sexual insults--). This episode had a bizarre amount of Ryan Murphy not so much mocking himself, but rather mocking his critics, even though he didn't script it. I admit, I found some of the Sing/Glee stuff kinda funny--I almost wish he would go all Grosse Pointe, like Darren Star did and base more around that. It just doesn't really add up--Nene's character now kinda having a friendship with Nana (which would be even more odd for those who didn't watch the unaired Halloween episode), etc. But I did think the concept of having to go without technology, while heavy handed and making Goldie look even more stupid (when my sister in law has been pregnant she seems, if anything, even more on the ball than when not) was a cute concept.

[myprettycabinet]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 3:49am

I noticed that the Halloween episode "The New Para-Normal" or whatever, was on my DVR, which is set to record all first-airings...

Tonight's episode was not even mocking...it was....obnoxious. Yes, that's the word, OBNOXIOUS. I think the one decent thing was that Shania finally acted like a 9 year-old for once, but was annoying because of it. I really wish Goldie had actually been a parent to her at the end. If I were Goldie, and my brat of a child woke me up at 4am to prove a point, I would have said something to the effect of, "I'm your parent, and I say you cannot be on your tablet all hours of the day. That's it and that's final." I would've been SO ANGRY if I were Goldie. UGH.

And then the Glee stuff. First off - we know that Andrew Rannells can ACTUALLY sing, why was his song SO full of autotune? (Although, we shouldn't start asking "why", lol). I felt so uncomfortable watching that video, because it felt like it was supposed to be HILARIOUS. And the set of "Glee", it's like he's not even trying to be creative anymore. Complete with an Artie-type character played by an actor who can actually walk.

What real-life event was the Twitter thing based off of?

Updated On: 11/14/12 at 03:49 AM

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 4:36am

I think it was just based on Murphy saying that when he finally got onto twitter he didn't realize the reactions he'd get... or something. I know he had a thing against Brett Easton Ellis' twits--or rather they had some fight together which I assume is why Nana deleted Brett's friend request (because, obviously, her character would know who he was...)

[myprettycabinet]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 4:43am

lol, are you saying that Nana wouldn't've LOVED Glamorama?

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 2:30pm

Exactly, you know she keeps it with Rules of Attraction and American Psycho on her top book shelf. I can just picture Murphy quickly coming into the story meeting and making sure they add that line--completely out of character but clearly essential to his point for the episode. Or something.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 3:02pm

I did kind of chuckle at "Gleea," but only because we invented "Gleea Michelepha" here. I don't really get the point of making Bryan's life and exact replica of Ryan Murphy's but whateves.

The autotune on the song didn't bother me that much (after all, on Glee, even people singing in their shower are autotuned) but the whisper breathiness and those faces he made just gave me the willies.

Nene Lekes continues to recite her lines like someone who is reading copy for the first time.

Updated On: 11/14/12 at 03:02 PM

[myprettycabinet]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 3:08pm

The whole episode felt as obvious as that Brett Easton Ellis line.

I just always figured that the autotune was because the actor's couldn't sing, but I know Andrew can, so I guess it's just a stupid effect that Ryan loves.

I totally agree on NeNe's line reads. It's ridiculous. It's worse than when celebrities play themselves.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 3:15pm

For the most part on Glee, I feel the autotune is used largely just because they want to rush through the recording sessions as fast as possible--most of the actors seem capable of singing at least decently--but Murphy likes to think he's current (even when he's 5 years behind), so probably assumed it would give it that "modern" pop sound.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/14/12 at 3:16pm

I'm a little surprised Murphy didn't create a *real* Nana twitter account. (He didn't, right?)