The George Zimmerman Trial — Page 21

They're not doing themselves any favors, nor are they doing Florida's justice system's reputation any favors.

I think it's just all about the moolah for them.

Can't blame her, though. I mean, God forbid Trayvon's family be upset at you when you say he deserved to be shot. Clear that air, girl!

A highly controversial verdict, and the nation gets to hear one of the only six jurors who gave it say, "...Well, damn." at a time when the verdict is obviously irreversible.

Thanks for your service, Juror B-Whatever. Now, shut up.

Updated On: 7/25/13 at 04:16 PM

I agree - these jurors need to shut up! Nauseating!

very true. dont blame the jury, the prosecuters should be held accountable for over reaching. same thing happened in Casey Anthony trial. if the prosecutors didnt try for the death penalty, Casey would be in jail right now.

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Sue, while I have serious doubts whether the prosecution tried this case as well as they should have, for a variety of reasons, I disagree that overcharging was the problem here.

There was a legitimate view of the case that this was murder, and, more importantly, including a top count which the prosecution may well not succeed at getting a conviction for (for instance murder), in the hopes of having the jury reach a compromise verdict to a lesser charge (such as manslaughter) is a common and legitimate trial strategy which often succeeds. That's not even bothering to consider the political ramifications of not charging murder in this particular case, which bring up a great many concerns.

To suggest that this jury would have convicted of manslaughter had it been the top count they were asked to consider, when they acquitted of manslaughter here after having acquitted of murder, is speculative and unpersuasive hindsight. In addition, though it is far from conclusive, nothing any of the jurors have said suggests that these six people would have agreed to convict of manslaughter had that been the top count. Self-defense operates the same, at least theoretically, for murder or manslaughter.

If the prosecution had charged manslaughter as the top count and still gotten an acquittal, I can almost guarantee you that many would be suggesting that the prosecution made a grave error in not charging murder and that failing to do so prevented a likely compromise verdict - of course that opinion would be equally speculative.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Updated On: 7/26/13 at 03:14 PM

Trayvon's mother: 'It is devastating for my family to hear the comments from juror B29'

The defense's summation was extremely well done. O"Mara has a very compelling style and was clearly doing a very good job on behalf of his client and from what I could tell the prosecution was outclassed; they could have done a much better job of focusing the jury's attention on the facts that I keep coming back to which convince me of Zimmerman's guilt (the screaming stopping when the gun was fired, why if it had been Zimmerman wouldn't he have continued crying out for help especially if he didn't know at first that Martin was dead? Isn't it strange that if it had been Zimmerman calling out for help that he wouldn't have continued to do so, continued to try to get help because he hd just shot the man, especially if he had just gotten his head beaten as he states and was in that much pain? Does this make any sen se at all? That the shot rings out and the yelling stops? No, the reason the shot rang out and the yelling stops is clear; it's because the person doing the yelling was dead! And there's another reason why we know the yelling was Trayvon Martin's - George Zimmerman himself heard the tape and said the voice yelling for helo wasn't his! Of course it's quite possible to not recognize one's own voice on tape, but that's beside the point. Zimmerman knew he was listening to the last minutes of Trayvon Martin's life, knew he was listening to the moments before he pulled that trigger - if it had been him yelling for help nd not Trayvon Martin, than Zimmerman would have clearly said that the voice was his because he would have known it was his cries - he was there, he knows who was crying out for help, there's no reason he would say it wasn't his own voice crying out for help if it had been - no,the reason he said it wasn't his voice was because it wasn't his voice, it was the voice of Trayvon Martin clling for help, calling for help as if his life depended on it!)
In New York few judges would allow either side to instruct the jury on the law anywhere near the extent that was permitted in that closing argument. Most judges feel that it is the court's responsibility to explain the law to the jury and the defense's and prosecution's roles in closing argument are of a very different stripe. Accordingly they allow the attorneys to apply the facts to the law (there's reasonable doubt because we know from witness A that when x happened, all the defendant was doing was y, and therefore....) but not to take it upon themselves to actually give the legal standards to the jury (reasonable doubt exists if you reach any of these conclusions on this chart from he clearly didn't act without justification to he might not have acted with justification but I have reasons why I can't be completely certain).

Updated On: 7/29/13 at 08:16 PM

Seriously?


George Zimmerman stopped by cops, packing heat

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I'm sure he was just standing his ground.

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Well, this is his new girlfriend (FYI, he is STILL Married)Just wait. It will all be her fault just like his estranged wife was the reason for his last arrest. Just like Trayvon Martin was at fault and so on. This man has been arrested three times since July. He apparently has anger issues and he owns multiple guns.

Does anyone seriously think he will not kill again?

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Yes, he was standing his ground and she walked into his balled fist a half dozen times. Leave the guy alone!

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Sutton Ross,

I’m sure it made sense in your head, but what do you think you just said, and to whom did you say it? I’m curious and can’t follow as it doesn't make sense.

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