The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'- Page 2
The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
#25The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 2:28pmOne thing I learned today is that some people really need to get over themselves and not judge.
#26The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 2:34pmI learned that the concept of "privilege" went from useful to irritating in about 5 minutes.
#27The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 2:36pmI learned that Pittsburgh has 14 gay bars!
#28The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 2:36pmI learned that this thread should just die. Let it float to the bottom of the page and on the next one.
#29The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 2:36pm
I don't mind women being in gay bars as long as they aren't the kind that become drunk screaming messes that are desperately trying to be the life of the party or in some instances try to****block their gay friends.
Well, that's how I feel about any person, male or female, in any bar, gay or straight.
Personally, this article just reads like the conjecture of a poorly researched masters thesis.
#30The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 2:39pmAs my grandmother Mita would say in her ever lovin' spanglish: "It is a pile of ca-ca".
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#31The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 2:41pmIn the real world I have learned that my rule breaking behavior is altered when gay men bring their women friends to underwear parties.
#32The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 3:12pm
This article is ridiculously overwritten, but I will say someone posted the article that it's replying to (from Jezebel) on FB and I found that even more annoying, so...small favours?
For part of the time I was living in Montreal, my twin sister was living there too and we'd go out with various groups of friends fairly regularly -- pretty equally gay and straight bars (though the straight bars we went to tended to be indie music joints where honestly I seemed to meet a number of gay guys anyway.) She never complained about behaviour from others for the most part -- certainly I've never seen a bartender refuse to serve a woman (if anything it usually seemed to be that the bartenders were mostly straight...) The only place I remember being exceptions were certain nights at the gay strip clubs...
That said, while the "gay bar" scene here in Victoria where I'm doing grad studies is ridiculously small and dull, I will say that I kinda like that because of lack of venues you find more men and women, gays and lesbians and straights at the same venue.
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#33The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 3:12pm
"Personally, this article just reads like the conjecture of a poorly researched masters thesis."
Actually it reads like the conjecture of a poorly researched masters thesis in response to the conjecture of another poorly researched masters thesis.
#34The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 3:16pm
I actually thought that the original post on Jezebel had a few good points that weren't addressed in the Huffington Post response (or in the discussion here), the biggest one being the ease with which some gay men seem to use words like bitch or c**t (one of my least favorite words) when describing women, even women that they count among their friends.
#35The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 3:24pm
Givesmevoice, I can't remember what I was watching, but at some point in the last week I remember thinking to myself "Is 'bitch' just what women are called now?" And it wasn't a gay man saying it; it was a woman. Several, actually.
It's pretty much the ONLY word for women in hip-hop and reality TV; that, I'm used to. But I hear it so casually now, just on the street. It's odd.
#36The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 3:26pm
the biggest one being the ease with which some gay men seem to use words like bitch or c**t (one of my least favorite words) when describing women, even women that they count among their friends.
Oooh, I would never, ever disrespect a woman, friend or not in that manner. My momma taught me better than that.
#37The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 3:27pm
Givesmevoice, I can't remember what I was watching, but at some point in the last week I remember thinking to myself "Is 'bitch' just what women are called now?" And it wasn't a gay man saying it; it was a woman. Several, actually.
Was it American Horror Story, perchance? That show is a prime example of how misogynistic gay men can be, in my opinion.
#38The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 3:28pm
^Agreed. I find it horrifying. Also, it's just terrible besides.
#39The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:08pm
"And that's why no one ever should ever go to Boxers ever."
But they have pizza!
#40The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:11pmI learned that PRS should write for HuffPo instead of the guy who wrote the original article.
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
#41The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:21pmI learned that groups considered minorities can have "privilege", which seems fundamentally incongruent.
#42The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:27pm
But they have pizza!
...and chicken wings...don't forget the chicken wings!! LOL!
#43The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:29pm
"Was it American Horror Story, perchance? That show is a prime example of how misogynistic gay men can be, in my opinion."
THANK YOU! For the longest time I felt like I was the only gay man in America (or at least on BWW) that hated this vile show. Ryan Murphy is the. worst.
#44The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:30pm
I learned that groups considered minorities can have "privilege", which seems fundamentally incongruent.
Intersectionality. I have privilege as a white person, but not as a woman.
#45The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:34pm^Yup. My white male privilege doesn't disappear just cause I'm gay.
#46The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:35pm
"THANK YOU! For the longest time I felt like I was the only gay man in America (or at least on BWW) that hated this vile show. Ryan Murphy is the. worst."
I suppose you don't read the thread for the show, then...
#47The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:41pm
Oh God. I can't go through this again. Last year (or the the year prior?) I swear there was a very similar thesis posted on Jezebel with multiple rebuttals and weeks of Facebook and Twitter threads.
And, yes, Ryan Murphy is the worst. It breaks my heart that he's directed The Normal Heart.
#48The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:49pm
I actually thought that the original post on Jezebel had a few good points that weren't addressed in the Huffington Post response (or in the discussion here), the biggest one being the ease with which some gay men seem to use words like bitch or c**t (one of my least favorite words) when describing women, even women that they count among their friends.
Women call each other "bitch" and even call themselves "bitch" as a greeting or a joke. I don't really cotton to it myself. I see it as lowering themselves to where "society" thinks they should be. Women are on a very slippery slope with more and more laws being passed or trying to be passed that regulate their own medical decisions. There seems to be a push to put women "back in their place" and by falling victim to using those terms in everyday conversion they're just allowing it to happen. I don't need to call my friends "bitch" or "c**t". I wouldn't even think of calling a friend either of those names. If you hear me say those terms there will always be anger behind it.
That's just my take on this issue.
#49The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'
Posted: 1/28/14 at 4:52pm
It was difficult, particularly since I still haven't managed to force myself to read the whole thing, but I think I've found the single stupidest point the Jezebel writer tried to make:
"As a larger, brown guy, I rarely have to worry about being followed or sexually assaulted on the street; this was and continues to happen to women in areas like New York City on a regular basis."
Tell that to Randy Gener, fellow brown gay man who's recovering from brain surgery following his recent beating.
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