The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part 14, version 2.0 — Page 137

For Siamese Dream:


She requested a rewrite be done, now that we know how I overestimated his intelligence when making that.

This entire ordeal is getting quite tiresome and boring. To have this much drama/controversy on a site that has been open just over a week, jeesh!

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I'm not so much offended by the blog itself as I am at the fact that only minutes after posting those messages that voiced legitimate concerns, we were met with a snarky blog. To add to that, the comments from other posters on the blog are uncalled for, too. I hate making generalizations about Myspacers, but the way they speak for him and against the mean, retarded posters that are ruining his site baffles me. There's obviously miscommunication in the messages, and maybe that's the reason behind the quick defense. I think this is case of both sides not knowing the whole story.

To the people that haven't heard the extent of it, I'm sorry you thought we had gone too far, but there were reasons.

Adam deleted all his old blogs and posted this (since you now have to log-in to read):

lets start anew
hello everyone, welocme to my new website. i think for all our sakes, we should pretend all the ugliness of the past never happened. have fun here. enjoy all the pics. i know you all like the ones where i look retarted...i do too...there's more!
thanks for coming, merch will be available soon

much love
adam


I think it's probably for the best. Some of those blogs should have never been posted in the first place.

I still object to his use of retarted [sic] as an insult. He's lucky he has two healthy, intelligent children and has never had to interpret it as anything but a mocking word.

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I don't think it was too much to ask for a decent explanation, instead of a snarky knee-jerk. I don't think it's out of line to want to know who's doing what with the website, and to ask for honesty in that regard. The thing that turns me off most about the blog is that it is the complete opposite from the way he would treat any of us in person. Our thoughtful, calm, level-headed posts are met with the same tone he uses when he speaks to the idiot fans who need to be babysat. (I'm sure within the next ten minutes, we'll get a blog about how no, we ALL need to be babysat because we were mean.) I'm not angry at him, nor do I want to be, but I am just sort of put-off and annoyed.

That said, given the Big Brother-esque developments, I don't think there's any way to "resolve" this. I mean, what can we do? It's obvious that whoever is making the decisions to lock things on the site to members only (now you have to log in just to READ the blogs) is just planning to shut out what they don't want to hear. I don't like the assumption that shutting out anonymous posts will stop those things they don't want to hear, because it means they're also assuming that those anonymous posts are not coming from a legitimate place, but rather, that they're just being made for the sake of pissing someone off. It's no better than the moron MySpace fans who are posting comment saying, "oh, they're just jackasses who want to stir stuff up," as though we're just trolls who could care less about the actual issues, but want to piss someone off.

I agree with Jenna's post about those fans. Everyone who isn't blindly following something out of sheer ignorance is just mean and stupid. Anyone who disagrees is a nasty bitch. Anything they may not know about didn't happen at all. Frankly, it saddens me that these are the people Adam would obviously prefer to hear from.

Really, really big turn-off, and a step in the very wrong direction. This is not what any of us envisioned all those times we said we wished he had a website, I'm sure. It's turned into nothing more than anything elitist fansite, except this time, the morons are hiding behind the object of affection.

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brina, I worked with special needs preschoolers for awhile, some high-functioning, some with very severe disabilities. It always bothers me when people use "retarded" as an insult, but it's unfortunately so rampant that I can't object every time. But Adam is in a position where he KNOWS these girls will worship his every word. A few days ago, I posted on the discussion board to ask someone not to use it and was ignored. Of course, now that Adam has used it, they'll all claim that it's ADAM'S WISHES that they mock the disabled.

I should make a joke about his wussy sons having food allergies and see how the posters react in comparison.

The "best way" to resolve this mess is that any Adam fan with half a brain joins his site and continues posting in the same manner. I refuse to let the idiot fans think they own him, and Adam think that blind worship is all his fans have to offer.

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Updated On: 12/6/07 at 01:00 PM

I was going to say the same thing; and not to say that that's literal, but they'll figure that since he used it, it's okay.

According to the government, we food allergic people are disabled. Perhaps in mocking other disabled people, the sheep would want to be somewhat sensitive.

I think that could help, I guess; not just posting to point out problems with the site, but to make intelligent contributions to the discussions, too.

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Chloe, I think you're grossly misrepresenting what happened.

No one assumed that he didn't have the intelligence to be in charge. No one said that he wasn't ultimately in charge. What we did say was that someone else was and is most likely involved with the website, mainly due to changes that were made immediately after our posts suggesting them on this thread. Said other person was making posts under an anonymous name applauding changes in which she likely had a role. As far as I know, our assertion that someone else is involved with the page hasn't been proven wrong. It's unfortunate that he apparently misinterpreted our comments. However, I'm not sure how you think it isn't a bit wrong to call fans who are expressing themselves in a calm, mature manner "nut balls" and call the situation "retarted."

Also, I have to add that your objection to what we wrote last night is a bit odd to read after you applauded our actions before Adam posted the blog. A blog that even he seems to realize made him look ridiculous.

Updated On: 12/6/07 at 01:35 PM

I think that we would all agree that this entire situation got WAY out of control. A.)Adam says that he is the one running the show now and that Ilana just had a hand in helping it get started right? B.) apparently Adam likes the site as is and C) like someone else said why do we want the only people that have a voice on the official site be them?
Unfortunatly the message that you were trieng to get in with your posts there were not understood, and if you could view things as an outsider I think you can see why it would seem as though you were just trieng to stir up trouble, I think that it would be in everyones best interest to swallow our pride and go with the "if you can't beat em, join em" theory!
_ETA_
I feel like the whole fan against fan thing has finally erupted because daddy is envolved
He's treating the only ones who have two brain cells to rub together like he treats the ones who do act out-of-line, and he's acting just like the morons who are bowing down to him on that website. It was no more right of him to insult you than it is you to insult them, who are you to judge like that?
He obviously feels that we acted out of line.

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Updated On: 12/6/07 at 02:12 PM

Mesmerized, I've gone to bat for you in the past because I respected that you were such a longtime fan of Adam's, but you're completely out of line.

You really had nothing to do with this entire situation. You don't know the reasons why some of us are so invested in it. You've made, what, a handful of posts here over the last couple of weeks, and now you feel you're in the position to tell us what's in "our best interest"? Do you even know why we had a rational basis for believing that Adam wasn't the one making all of the changes? Barging into a discussion and telling us what's in our best interest when you are completely unfamiliar with the circumstances surrounding the situation is beyond rude.

Just to clarify, while Adam said she had a hand in setting up the website, he never specified if someone was still helping him. Unfortunately, the questions will never be answered because he doesn't know what the questions are. I even understand why he might have misinterpreted what we were saying. Doesn't mean that it gives you the right to judge.

HOLD ON_ (first off please read this in an apologetic tone)you are right I do not know the whole story and apparently it is deeper than I even thought it was but I am not trieng to tell you what to do and I am truly sorry if I came off that way. I was just hopping that as an outsider of the situation I could help find a way to resolve it.
I do not fault you guys for anything (except the unnesesary insults, wich has always been my soapbox) I agree 10000% that Adam doesnot have the right to be insulting to you or any fans wich is why I never liked BOE or other comments he has made. And as someone said it appears that even he realizes this time he went to far.

Emcee - I apologize if I have now or in the past misinterperted your posts, I will be the first to admit that I never really know how to take you.

Lexi, I do consider you a friend and really am not trieng to say anything bad about anything you have done (any of you), I may not agree with the methods but I respect your choices.

Listen I feel really crappy now, I really was trieng to help, but obviously the cuts are deeper than I thought. The thing is I am on Team BWW 100% and really want us all to merge over there because I consider myself part of this group.

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I really want to delete my posts they were way off base and I didnt convey what I wanted to properly. I do post there, a little, I like posting here as well, but really felt like I was choosing sides.whaterer obviously I was wrong I am sorry again

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No one is saying you have to choose sides. In fact, I said the complete opposite- that people SHOULD join that board so they aren't the only ones.

In a perfect world, all Adam fans everywhere would join hands and sing Kumbaya around the campfire. However, it's not a perfect world and I refuse to play nice with someone that posts "Shut up you retarded midget go play in traffic." That person does not deserve my respect and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

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