Joined: 12/31/69
I kind of followed it this time, although I really wish that my piano teacher would have stressed theory a bit more.
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Aw, I was at work during a real music/technique/theory/etc conversation. Sad day...
Good news is though, they trust me enough at work to let me close, which is pretty dang cool in my opinion...
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/28/06
Hey Amber!
That is so cool.
Congratulations, Amber, that's great. Please feel free to add to the music theory (such as it is) conversation if you want.
Yay for Amber!
I was looking at the Rent blog & there's this one video where they ask the cast "What Was Your Favorite Scene From Rent?' I realized that Adam's outfit is...indescrible. That's how interesting it looks. It like a flowery buttom down shirt w/ a black blazer. I would post a screen cap but I don't know how.
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/06
As previously stated by someone, B(flat) is really high for even a lot of tenors, and for a guy to do it in full voice (as opposed to head voice/falsetto), its pretty much amazing.
If I'm not mistaken, the high note in Pity the Child is a high C...
You don't know how to screencap or how to post an image? I can help with the second one.
I think I remember that blog - Adam seemed to be going through an upholstery fabric shirt period at the time.
I can post pictures, but not screencap.
That's what I've heard too, Amber, and I believe there are a number of them in Pity the Child. There's an earlier point when Freddie sings a verse of that music to different words, but it's up a half-step higher, so the high note is C sharp at the end of "But the fools never learn." Not even operatic tenors try to sing C sharp very often.
ETA: I can only screencap (barely) using a Mac. That probably won't be of any use to you.
Updated On: 6/21/06 at 12:20 AM
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/06
Tis true...well, kind of. It's all in the sound production. Most operatic tenors would go after that same note, but produce it differently.
Have I ever mentioned how much I miss singing tenor? I did occasionally in high school...their parts are SO much more interesting than the mezzo/alto line...
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
I'm not trying to be obnoxious, but Pity the Child goes up to C#. I believe the "pity the child with no such weapons" line ends with one (on the "pons"), as well as "I was only her son." He hits the C# on the word "son," but takes it down a step or two after intitially hitting it.
And yes, A Taste of Pity (the song featuring the "fools never learn" line) goes up to C# as well.
Updated On: 6/21/06 at 12:25 AM
I think you have to download a screen cap program (a free, non-trial one), which I have yet to find.
The C# on "But the fools never learn" is so thrilling for some reason, maybe because it comes out of nowhere. It gives me chills sometimes.
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/06
One of those high notes
It's far too late for me (late work, Mavs losing), I need to be off...
G'nite!
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
Definitely, Ash. I think it's also because he makes it seem so effortless.
This reminds me of a time when I was playing Chess and my parents walked into my room to hear Adam hit that C#. They kind of gave me a bewildered, "this is Roger from Rent?" look.
ETA: Goodnight, Amber. Apologies if I sounded like a know it all with regards to the notes -- I certainly do not know much when it comes to musical theory, but I've just picked up quite a bit of Chess information.
Updated On: 6/21/06 at 12:32 AM
I'm not sure that's correct, Lexi, but it doesn't really matter. We know he can hit a C sharp.
Good night, Amber. I'm going in a minute too.
I was just reading back a bit... Raul can hit a B-flat, can't he? I think that Seth mentions that he did it in Chess. He has so much more of a baritone tone to his voice, though.
Goodnight, everyone who's going to bed!
I probably should be going to bed too, so good night everybody! Sweet dreams <3
Good night, Angela. Sleep well.
Yeah, I guess I think of Raul as more of a baritone. An interesting thing about Adam's voice is that it can have a baritone sound too, or at least that's how I think of that growl that's in his voice at times. It comes out especially at the end of The Ringing in My Ear. He must be able to sing fairly low too, since he does that "Dies irae" bit in LVB.
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I'm not sure that's correct, Lexi, but it doesn't really matter. We know he can hit a C sharp.
Wait, what isn't correct, Chloe? The person who told me the C-sharps featured in Pity the Child and the one in Taste of Pity actually read them from the score (he was in a production of Chess), so I'm pretty sure they're correct.
I was just reading back a bit... Raul can hit a B-flat, can't he? I think that Seth mentions that he did it in Chess. He has so much more of a baritone tone to his voice, though.
I'm not really sure. I wonder where the Arbiter has to hit B-flat. Maybe during Model of Decorum? I wish I knew. I find all of this quite interesting.
Updated On: 6/21/06 at 12:46 AM
If I'm remembering the same thing from that Chess board, my impression was that the C sharp comes only in the little turn (quick passing note) on "son" and "who" before they drop down to lower notes. The main held notes are C's, while "learned" is held as a C sharp. That's what I thought the guy said, and it also squares with Seth Rudetsky's description of "a string of high C's" in Pity the Child.
Raul has a B-flat as the last note of Model of Decorum. And apparently in Hair at the end of "Bangled, tangled, spangled and spaghettied," although that's unrelated to the topic at hand. :)
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
I'm not sure we're remembering the same thing, as someone (it might have been the same person to make posts on this) PMed me with this information.
"Son" is definitely initially a C# and then drops down, but I thought that's what I wrote. I'm also positive that this person told me the "pons" on "weapons" was a C#. I wasn't under the impression that "who" was a C# as well, although it very well could be.
Hah, what's up with the miscommunication between us late at night lately?
ETA: Oooh, so I guessed correctly, Ash! It really does stand out in the song.
Updated On: 6/21/06 at 12:58 AM
Going by ear, "son" and "but the fools never learn" sound higher than the rest of Pity the Child, but I suppose that could be because they're held out. "Who" is definitely lower, and "weapons" sounds as though it would be.
Edit: No, maybe not.... I take that back about "who" not being a C-sharp. I think it's probably supposed to be, at least, although it doesn't sound quite as high because of the different vowel sound. You know what? I don't know, so I'm going to bow out here.
Updated On: 6/21/06 at 01:07 AM
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"weapons" sounds as though it would be.
Would be a C# or would be definitely lower? Heh. I'm completely positive that this person told me the last syllable of "weapons" (which is admittedly not held long at all) was a C#, but I suppose even he could have read the score incorrectly.
Ash, don't worry, I'm not sure about the "who," either! Like you, I'm going to bow out as well, if not because I'm not the best at judging this sort of thing, I'll bow out because I'm probably boring the hell out of everyone else.
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