The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part ten- Page 101

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 1:30am

Even though this topic has long passed, women don't always sing in their head voices. Classically trained sopranos *couldn't* use just their head voices, because it's nowhere near strong enough to maintain those notes at length. And it's not a male-female difference, because boys in choirs are called sopranos, not falsettos.

A "normal" voice is a chest voice, but a chest voice is not the same as belting.

/8 years of classical training in a nutshell

Posted: 6/21/06 at 1:31am

A "normal" voice is a chest voice, but a chest voice is not the same as belting.

What exactly is the difference between a chest voice and belting? That's something I've never quite understood. Is the usual "chest voice" actually a mix of head and chest voice, while belting is a pure chest voice?

[Chloe]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 1:35am

Yes, I realize that falsetto is not exactly the same as a classical soprano, but it seemed like the closest comparison in terms of placement.

I'm having problems with the site tonight, or I would have posted this sooner. This is what the guy said on the Chess board:

the high note in Pity the Child is a C#, but he only hits it breifly. He hits the C on 'Pity the child, with no such weapons', and again on 'I was only her son'. It's on the word 'son' that he squeaks out the C#.

I took that to mean that "son" is initially a C for a few moments, then very briefly goes to C sharp, C and down to B, which is what's held for a long time. That's the little turn I was referring to.

ETA: I really have to go now, I look forward to reading the rest of this conversation tomorrow... Updated On: 6/21/06 at 01:35 AM

Posted: 6/21/06 at 1:40am

I took that to mean that "son" is initially a C for a few moments, then very briefly goes to C sharp, C and down to B, which is what's held for a long time. That's the little turn I was referring to.

Perhaps -- I thought he simply meant that the "son" is initially C# and then goes down to either C or B (hence why I said one or two steps) after a little while. I thought there were only two notes involved, not three.

Strictly by ear, it sounds like he hits one note (likely C#) briefly and then goes down to one another note and holds that. I don't hear a turn consisting of three notes, but it could just be my untrained ear.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 2:14am

Sorry Chloe. I just have too many memories of my choir director yelling at us for being "lazy" and using our head voices instead.

Lexi, it's really complicated. I'm not trained in belting, so I have no idea how to explain. There's a difference in the sound (like, Sarah Brightman vs. Aretha Franklin) but I have no idea about the technicalities of how the difference is achieved.

Updated On: 6/21/06 at 02:14 AM

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 3:09am

Again, interesting how different forms of music have different forms of knowledge. I totally understand what Chloe was saying, about Adam's B flat/B in "Glory"(though in my wrong key world we're talking about C and C#) but I have absolutely no clue what Skittles is talking about, though I still find it fascinating.

[Amber_C2003]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 8:06am

A quick, hopefully understandable word on voicing, since it was discussed...

Chest voice=where most people speak (and men primarily sing), lower register

Belting=essentially taking the chest voice as high as possible, powerful, the technical aspect is...argued (is it healthy, etc).

Mixed voice=where most classically trained people sing, a blend of head and chest (there's also a mixed belt, which incorporates head voice into the belt...(argued again) to be a bit healthier than full chest voice)

Head voice=High register

[Dancinqueen123]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 11:34am

I wish I knew more about music, so I could try and figure out this stuff. Just have to say I had an Adam dream last night. It was really wierd, he was making a movie or something and he took pictures of everything. It was strange.

[picturetaker9211]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 2:07pm

I finally figured out how to screen cap stuff! Here's that shirt that I was talking about that Adam wears during a couple of the Rent blogs/Rent press junket.

Updated On: 6/21/06 at 02:07 PM

[To The Stage!]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 2:09pm

I think most of us here have seen those videos. I don't think the shirt is that bad. I'm just happy it's not a lumberjack shirt

[Chloe]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 9:40pm

Nice picture, Angela. At least the colors work even though the pattern leaves a little to be desired.

Posted: 6/21/06 at 10:04pm

It's eerily similar to the Hair shirt, yes?

[Chloe]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 10:19pm

There's certainly a family resemblance. Though I'd prefer T-shirts, the dress shirts he's been wearing lately are somewhat better.
Updated On: 6/21/06 at 10:19 PM

Posted: 6/21/06 at 10:21pm

Well, if nothing else, the dress shirts kind of match the overall atmosphere of his tour performances. Less rock concert, more small lounge feeling (no, I'm not calling Adam a lounge singer! ).

ETA: Clearly, I'm making excuses for his poor fashion choices. Updated On: 6/21/06 at 10:21 PM

[Chloe]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 10:33pm

I don't think of them as poor fashion choices so much as just not what I like best on him. I thought those tour shirts were rather elegant in themselves.

Posted: 6/21/06 at 10:42pm

Point taken. I'm assuming he's trying to go for a more mature look, but like you, I don't think they're the best choice for him.

So, how is everyone tonight? Anyone have any topics of discussion that they want to throw out there?

[Dancinqueen123]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 11:01pm

I wish I did have something to talk about, but I don't.

[picturetaker9211]

Posted: 6/21/06 at 11:23pm

Boring News: I searched Adam Pascal pictures on Google Images & I got one result that was from this thread.

Game: Everybody can post their favorite Adam pics & we can discuss them?
^My sad attempt to make this thread more alive.

Updated On: 6/21/06 at 11:23 PM

[Chloe]

Posted: 6/22/06 at 12:09am

I haven't been doing my part because my computer has been acting up, but that's not a bad idea, and not sad at all. This is one of my favorites because 1 - I love Adam in t-shirts, and 2 - he looks so happy.

[To The Stage!]

Posted: 6/22/06 at 12:16am

aww cute picture Chloe. I love his smile

I like the eyelashes in this photo.

Updated On: 6/22/06 at 12:16 AM

[To The Stage!]

Posted: 6/22/06 at 12:16am

double post =P

Updated On: 6/22/06 at 12:16 AM

[Chloe]

Posted: 6/22/06 at 12:18am

That's okay - it was fun seeing four sets of eyelashes for a moment.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 6/22/06 at 12:19am

God, he's so girly.

[To The Stage!]

Posted: 6/22/06 at 12:20am

1 - I love Adam in t-shirts

Even the Dirty Sanchez one Chloe?

[picturetaker9211]

Posted: 6/22/06 at 12:26am

God, he's so girly.
In addition to the eyelashes, he's wearing earrings =P

Not one of my absolute favorites, but I love his green eyes! This pic also particularly reminds me of one of his sons, Montgomery.