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#26

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:10pm

Except he's not Judy.

Let him recreate a Kate McGarrigle concert.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#27

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:10pm

I'm not sure of the point either... which is why I am intrigued. Why take a legendary concert and repeat the material, song for song, in (what HAS to be) an entirely different way?

It's sensationalizing... capitalizing... Or is it honoring... and reminding us... or sharing what perhaps he sees as the definitive concert of anything, anywhere, anytime?

Inquiring minds want to know.

EDIT: I think Rufus is an "artist" in the truest sense of the word. I think he's doing this to evoke an emotional response from his audience... good, bad, or indifferent.

The kid's got GUTS... I'll give him that.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#29

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:16pm

It's definitely a bold statement.

...And I'm guessing this artist (Rufus) is going to leave it up to US as to how we interpret it.

He will be "wide open" on stage... completely exposed. With the shadow of a legendary performer on a legendary evening looming over him.

You can't get much more "naked" than that on stage, artistically.

(...not counting "Oh, Calcutta!")
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#31

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:21pm

I agree, it's brazen, bold, defiant, challenging...

...and either brilliant or a colossal flop of a mistake.

But he is definitely "walking the high wire" here.

Nothing SAFE about doing this. It's almost the entertainer's equivalent of climbing Mount Everest.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#32

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:25pm

And he's living out a dream that so many gay men have - to be Judy for one magic night. He'll be Super Queen that night.
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
#33

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:26pm

I also am of the opinion that it's immensely disrespectful, no matter what he says.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#35

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:27pm

Kringas --- That may be the answer, in a nutshell (...or nut-case?)

Rathy---Only if he wears the stolen Ruby Slippers while he does the show.

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Hey, if he starts dissin' "the lady" in any way on that stage... I'm flying east in time for his curtain call, with tar and feathers in hand!
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#36

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:31pm

And for that, I say more power to him. If I had the means to do it, I'd probably do the same. I read the article, and I didn't detect any arrogance or disrespect. Perhaps the effort may be misguided, but I suppose we'll know soon enough.

I do wonder, though, who the intended audience is? Judy fans? Rufus Fans? How much does that group overlap?
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey

Updated On: 6/4/06 at 02:31 PM

#38

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 2:43pm

Kringas, there's always circus fans, too.

Rathy--well, here's hopin' he disses the Lady, then! re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#40

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 3:06pm

I'm all for giving poeple a chance but what the hell is he saying in these quotes?! Is this really considered a respectful tribute when he exclaimes that:

"I've thought a lot about this, and I think the secret" to Garland's effect on listeners decades after her death, said Mr. Wainwright, "is that, when she sings, she is beautiful without being actually beautiful." and

"It's a little hard for me to get inside that story since I'm a 32-year-old man in my prime and wasn't put on pills by my mother at 8," he said.

By the way, that poster of him is horrendous. He is NOT the world's greatest entertainer. I understand what he was going for but he could have at least taken that part out. geezz.




Happy...Everything! Kaye Thompson
#42

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 3:17pm

Well specifically: "she is beautiful without being actually beautiful"- Thats a bold statement to say the least. I still have yet to figure out why people insist that she wasn't beautiful. The whole statement about not being able to relate because "I wasn't put on pills by my mother at 8". Well if one can't relate to Judy than one shouldn't recreate Judy's show. Simple as that.
Happy...Everything! Kaye Thompson
#44

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 3:42pm

Rufus is doing this show because his career has platformed. Cut. Print.

He is not an artist, not bold, not naked. He is someone whose career is based on his [somewhat] famous parents, his [somewhat] good looks, and his playing to gullible gay and lesbian youth in dire need of role models. And he ain't it.

If Liza attends either of his shows, I will lose respect for her. I wonder if some lamebrain like Sam Harris will drag her to it. I bet Lorna would go for the photo op.

"Songs My Mother Taught Me" meets "Songs I Would Not Dream of Singing Were It Not for the Fact that My Career is Dying"
Do you know what happens when you let Veal Prince Orloff sit in an oven too long?
#46

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 3:50pm

If Liza refused to see Boy from Oz, I doubt she would attend this. Personally I think Rufus is whiney and depressing - his songwriting skills are good - but as a performer I would never be able to sit through a concert.
"Oh Link...your pork is ready..." - Edna Turnblad
#47

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 4:34pm

Jesus Christ, there really is no predicting what Rath is going to get hung up about and harp on endlessly, Marissa's Tony dress shopping woes, Rufus's "arrogrance," etc.

The fricking concert is a tribute, a celebration. It's Pride month, Rufus is a GAY man, gay men have a long historical connection to Garland, Garland's death was a catalyst for the Stonewall Riots. It all makes perfect sense, but if you don't get it, (and here's the entire key right here), maybe it's not for you to get and you should just move along.

Although I am absolutely sure there must have been at least one insufferably arrogant performer on stage at, for example, Angela Lansbury: A Celebration ten years ago, how is this event any more or less heretical than Rufus's?

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#50

re: The So-Called Prime of Miss Rufus Wainwright

Posted: 6/4/06 at 4:42pm

Lord knows, Namo, you would never "harp" on any subject you didn't "get."

And after all this time, your obsession with all things Rath is still adorable.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

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