The View on Transgendered Children
#2
Posted: 12/5/07 at 7:26pm
You have to pity her children.
Whoopie is the only one in that clip who came across as having any sense at all.
Whoopie is the only one in that clip who came across as having any sense at all.
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#3
Posted: 12/5/07 at 7:49pm
I was actually expecting much worse. She's a nitwit, but she certainly sounds a lot more cool-headed than my parents did when they were confronted with little Phyllis wearing a dress.
#4
Posted: 12/6/07 at 12:37am
Sherri has a right to her opinion, but, boy is it sad.
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#5
Posted: 12/6/07 at 12:43am
okay this is kinda silly, but while I was watching that clip and heard:
"Would you give a boy a doll?"
"Would you give a girl a gun?"
...all I could think was:
"Would you give a mouse a cookie?"
You know, cuz if you did, he would probably ask for a glass of milk.
Anybody? ::cough:: Moving on...
But in all seriousness, I think its good to have Sherri on that show because it shows us how a lot of the rest of the country thinks, despite anyone's best efforts. We need to be reminded there there are still very conservative people out there that "just don't know/understand". Lord knows living in NYC I forget...
"Would you give a boy a doll?"
"Would you give a girl a gun?"
...all I could think was:
"Would you give a mouse a cookie?"
You know, cuz if you did, he would probably ask for a glass of milk.
Anybody? ::cough:: Moving on...
But in all seriousness, I think its good to have Sherri on that show because it shows us how a lot of the rest of the country thinks, despite anyone's best efforts. We need to be reminded there there are still very conservative people out there that "just don't know/understand". Lord knows living in NYC I forget...
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#6
Posted: 12/6/07 at 12:47am
I think I'm now dumber for having watched that clip. Closed-minded twit.
#7
Posted: 12/6/07 at 7:10am
As a teacher I would personally not feel comfortable telling the child he could not wear a dress.
It is a period of free play, the children are taking time to imagine and explore, and nothing that is safe is off-limits to them. The toys are there for everyone and to determine who should and should not play with what based on race, religion or gender is just wrong.
Besides, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
So if I let Sheri's kid put on the dress, I get lambasted by the pissed parent and my judgment and abilities are called into question. But then I don't let the next boy put on a dress and I am called into question by another parent for reinforcing gender stereotypes or discriminating against their child. Teachers are not in a position to enforce the varied degrees of "morals" in every household of every child in their classroom.
It is a period of free play, the children are taking time to imagine and explore, and nothing that is safe is off-limits to them. The toys are there for everyone and to determine who should and should not play with what based on race, religion or gender is just wrong.
Besides, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
So if I let Sheri's kid put on the dress, I get lambasted by the pissed parent and my judgment and abilities are called into question. But then I don't let the next boy put on a dress and I am called into question by another parent for reinforcing gender stereotypes or discriminating against their child. Teachers are not in a position to enforce the varied degrees of "morals" in every household of every child in their classroom.
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#8
Posted: 12/6/07 at 8:40am
I can tell you that in our suburban NJ town, there was a transgendered child who graduated from our HS a couple of years ago. While I wouldn't be able to say that he never had any troubles with students or teachers, to be honest I never even knew about him until I saw him in my kid's yearbook. When I asked my kid who it was, she just said, "Oh, that's {name}".
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#9
Posted: 12/6/07 at 9:14am
The problem is that even when you flip the stereotype ("Would you give a girl a gun, truck, etc"), it still doesn't hold the same power (or cause the same fear) as a boy wearing a dress. The only thing this country hates more than women is men who act like women.
#10
Posted: 12/6/07 at 9:18am
By the way, has anyone else here seen Kate Davis's 2000 documentary, SOUTHERN COMFORT about the love story between Robert Eads and "Lola Cola?" The single best treatement of the subject, to my thinking (even more than BOYS DON'T CRY), and winner of the Berlin and Venice film festivals. Robert Eads is the single most extraordinary poster child for this community, and the David film is a bravura portrait. It's on DVD, and not to be missed.
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#11
Posted: 12/6/07 at 10:18am
I love that film, Auggie...it's on Logo every once in a while.
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#12
Posted: 12/6/07 at 12:15pm
Whoa is Sherri dumb! I've never heard of anyone who didn't know the world was round, and her saying that she never gave it much thought???? That she was more concerned about feeding her children????
oy. I'm glad she's on the show.
oy. I'm glad she's on the show.
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#13
Posted: 12/6/07 at 12:29pm
Barbara came across as a b!tch in that clip. why get so many loud mouths on one show and then shush them the whole time? i hated her granny attitude more than Sherri being outspoken.
#14
Posted: 12/6/07 at 12:34pm
i have no desire to spend even a second on the view, but i will take a moment to point out that transgendered children are clearly aliens sent here to corrupt the human race as part of a master plan by gay space cockroaches from the 8th dimension. as such, they must be hunted down and slaughtered, or at the very least taunted mercilessly and made to wear fake leather bustiers (regardless of their physical sex).
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#15
Posted: 12/6/07 at 3:17pm
Barbara Walters missed an opportunity here to follow up with, after she asks Sherri what she would do if one of her children told her that he was gay, to follow up with a question what would you do if you child told you he was transgendered.
Many trans people know that they are trans from as early on as 2 or 3. It's clear from the get-go to many that they feel like they should be the opposite sex. People are severly undereducated on the whole trans issue. Props to the View for bringing it up.
If sherri thinks shes helping by telling her kid not to explore their transgender feelings by exploring with clothing, shes wrong! Shes only going to suppress the kids feelings, making the situation worse.
Why are people so uptight about a boy wearing a dress? How many times do you see a girl wearing boy clothes. ie PANTS. Its become such a norm that no one even flinches.
It's about power. Wanting to be more like a man is seen as wanting to be more powerful and in our patrical society- thats encouraged, but wanting to go the other way.... a boy wanting to give up "god-given" power (masculinity) to become more subversive and feminine, is considdered a weaking plow to our human character.
Get over it Sherri, and get off your high frickin horse. No the earth isnt Flat, no, there were people before christians you dumb ass sucking sound of a person! Read a book once and while.
Many trans people know that they are trans from as early on as 2 or 3. It's clear from the get-go to many that they feel like they should be the opposite sex. People are severly undereducated on the whole trans issue. Props to the View for bringing it up.
If sherri thinks shes helping by telling her kid not to explore their transgender feelings by exploring with clothing, shes wrong! Shes only going to suppress the kids feelings, making the situation worse.
Why are people so uptight about a boy wearing a dress? How many times do you see a girl wearing boy clothes. ie PANTS. Its become such a norm that no one even flinches.
It's about power. Wanting to be more like a man is seen as wanting to be more powerful and in our patrical society- thats encouraged, but wanting to go the other way.... a boy wanting to give up "god-given" power (masculinity) to become more subversive and feminine, is considdered a weaking plow to our human character.
Get over it Sherri, and get off your high frickin horse. No the earth isnt Flat, no, there were people before christians you dumb ass sucking sound of a person! Read a book once and while.
#16
Posted: 12/6/07 at 3:40pm
When Shrri says that the child can do as it pleases once it's 18 is missing a HUGE fact.
If the child is raised thinking that what it is doing is wrong, then after they become 18, it's going to be nothing but a problem.
She needs to pull her head out.
If the child is raised thinking that what it is doing is wrong, then after they become 18, it's going to be nothing but a problem.
She needs to pull her head out.
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#17
Posted: 12/6/07 at 4:06pm
I saw this yesterday, she's really starting to bother me.
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#18
Posted: 12/6/07 at 6:49pm
I'm still trying to figure out why the whole issue of transgender came up in the first place. Just because a boy of that age chooses to put on a princess dress during dress-up play time doesn't mean that he is transgendered, gay or going to be a cross dresser. It's natural for children of that age to be curious and to play out different fantasies.
Sheri is clearly a narrow minded idiot, but Barbara was just as bad for linking the two issues so casually. I can just imagine every Middle America who watches that show panicing when she finds her three year old son playing with her male-up and shoes.
I have to wonder how long Whoppie will last on that show before she runs, screaming, away from that pack of loud mouth old broads.
Sheri is clearly a narrow minded idiot, but Barbara was just as bad for linking the two issues so casually. I can just imagine every Middle America who watches that show panicing when she finds her three year old son playing with her male-up and shoes.
I have to wonder how long Whoppie will last on that show before she runs, screaming, away from that pack of loud mouth old broads.
What would Tina Yothers do?
#19
Posted: 12/6/07 at 6:49pm
gay alien space cockroaches.
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#20
Posted: 12/6/07 at 7:01pm
Papa, I'll bet you're wearing black lace panties under your jeans.
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#21
Posted: 12/6/07 at 7:08pm
oh, ida, another who wants me to conform to their sad, delusional fantasy? sorry, not even if i swung that way. not even with hd's dick. not even with one of those transgendered kids' gay space cockroach dicks.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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#22
Posted: 12/6/07 at 7:17pm
Did Bawbwa forget about her interview with the two kids a few years ago?
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#23
Posted: 12/6/07 at 7:42pm
What makes me a little ill is that Sherri used to do her stand up act in a talent show I used to produce year ago.
She was never this stupid then.
She was never this stupid then.
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#25
Posted: 12/6/07 at 7:50pm
Considering it was in a gay bar...
No
No
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