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#26

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:36pm

I blame TV.

"The children, ages 8 to 10, were apparently mad at the teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair, Tanner said."

What kind of excuse is that. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

And when I was in 6th grade, I started a strike because I didn't want homework. I got the idea from the movie Newsies. I got strike and riot mixed up. I put the words "we attack at 9 :15" on my paper. They thought I was going to fight someone. I got 2 inschools (one for doing terrible on my first inschool then being falsly accused!)

By the way, I have grown up from this. The point of that story was to show what dumb things kids will do. I seriously do blame TV.

He's a faker, and you've been taken in by his con. And in doing so, you are enabling him. He is doing more damage to aspergers than papa's words ever could. -Chane/Liverpool on me having asperger syndrome.

#27

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:53pm

I blame Hillary.

And BWW.

....but the world goes 'round

#28

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:54pm

^ HA! dITTO.

#29

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 12:59pm

Millions of children watch tv and don't plot to attack their teachers.

I'm not saying the media doesn't have zero responsibility - but no one here knows anything of the parenting going on with these kids.

Point is - there are probably a few or many factors contributing to these types of incidents. You can't just blame the media. That's an easy scapegoat.

Ultimately - there's a part of your brain that can and should decide what is right and what is wrong. It's called morals and ethics.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka

Updated On: 4/2/08 at 12:59 PM

#30

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:01pm

How about blaming the atrocious little brats who planned this thing?

Or about blaming the teacher who seems to have driven third graders, ordinarily not the most advanced people when it comes to violence or carefully thought out plans, to orchestrate all this?

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#31

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:03pm

That's so incredibly disturbing. I gave a kid detention in my first month of teaching and got my brand new Suzuki SUV keyed for it. It was always in the back of my mind from then on, "All it takes is one psycho parent or kid . . ."

I have a theory, which is that the video game and movie companies can make their billions off violence and it's the parents responsibility to look after thier own kids. But then things like Columbine happen, or this, and all of a sudden, it's not just a matter of what one or two parents allow their kids to play or watch because it affects others.

#32

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:04pm

How about the people ultimately responsible, the parents.
In third grade, my mom checked my bookbag to make sure I had everything I needed, you know like books, lunch, NOT HANDCUFFS AND A KNIFE.

#33

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:06pm

You're really going to blame the victim?

Have you ever been a teacher, mentor or youth leader?

Unless she's running her classroom like Stalin, I wouldn't go looking at the teacher to blame. According to the report, she admonished a kid for standing on a chair - and that's why they retaliated as if they were children of the damned.

Kids learn at a very young age their sense of entitlement. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they interviewed these kids and they showed how spoiled or "deserving" they think they are to do whatever THEY want.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka

#34

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:08pm

Exactly! Thanks, Craig.

#35

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:10pm

And, if she hadn't scolded the child to get off the chair, and the child had fallen and hurt themself, the parents would have sued six ways to Sunday.

#36

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:27pm

When I was a student teacher and taught eight grade Engish, one of my students was technically enrolled but was in rehab all that time.

This was in Baton Rouge, Lousiana over 20 years ago. Gawd knows what students are like now.

#37

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 1:28pm

WindyCity,

I don't get it. Are we supposed to make that the leap that just because your student was in rehab, he/she was disposed to violence in the school?

#38

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 2:36pm

Clearly, something was going on at that school, either with some pretty screwed up kids (most likely) or a really sadistic teacher from hell (not entirely impossible). The newspaper reports don't go into details, and they never will.

Blame the kids. They're the ones who did it, after all.

No, I haven't worked with children. My childhood memories of how rotten sadistic cruel and downright monstrous children really are would make that impossible.

Updated On: 4/2/08 at 02:36 PM

#39

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 2:55pm

Has anyone complimented them on their planning, teamwork and organizational skills?

'Take me out tonight where's there's music and there's people and they're young and alive.'

#40

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 3:04pm

Am I the only one who seeing this story realizes just what a slacker he truly was in 3rd grade? I could barely keep my crayons in the box when I was in 3rd grade and here are these kids plotting a major crime!

#41

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 8:36pm

Is this on the test?

#42

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 8:41pm

Yes, it is!

#43

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 10:57pm

Ok, on the one hand, I do have to agree with a "Wow, and I thought I was doing well because I could rap my times tables."

That said, there has *got* to be more to this on the teachers end than we are hearing. Normal 3rd Graders don't plot something like this. And while I am not "Blaming the Victim," a lot of the time, the victim does do something that sets it into motion. They may not deserve it, but 95% of the time, they aren't totally innocent.

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#44

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 11:07pm

"Normal 3rd Graders don't plot something like this."

Well, clearly these are NOT normal 3rd graders.

" but 95% of the time, they aren't totally innocent."

95% of the time? So you're saying that the teacher is practically never totally innocent.

First of all, from where did you get that percentage?

Second-by "not totally innocent" does that mean the teacher did something that the students didn't like?

tsk tsk.

<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

#45

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 11:36pm

I believe the "statistics" is more a statement of the posters opinions.

There's no such statistic. And if there is - PLEASE - link us to it.

You can't go around saying or truly believing that 95 percent of the time "they were asking for it"

ick

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka

#46

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 11:39pm

Please, did you see how she was dressed? She totally had it coming.

#47

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/2/08 at 11:41pm

My points exactly, Craig. How ridiculous.

<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

#48

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/3/08 at 12:40am

Jane2 and Craig-
You've misunderstood. Yes, those are my opinons. What I'm saying is most vicitms aren't always 100% innocent. True, bad things can happen randomly, but there had to have been several incidents over an extended period of time that would lead them to this. That's what I mean when I say 95% of the time a victim is not totally innocent. I'm not saying it was 95% the teacher's fault, I'm just saying that she (or he?) probably has done multiple things over the course of the year and the chair incident was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

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#49

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/3/08 at 1:59am

That's right, she was asking for it. Fire that woman immediately.

#50

re: Third graders plot teacher attack

Posted: 4/3/08 at 6:59am

Heaven forbid a teacher disciplines an unruly student...

She totally deserved it.

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