"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
#1"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/25/25 at 3:59pm
I live the equivalent of a half marathon length from Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Miramar, San Diego. This weekend there will be an air show at Miramar. I can hear military jets above my house now preparing for the show. Early in my Navy career, I was stationed at Naval Air Station, Pensacola, and came to love the sound of military jets. Decades later, that sound still lets me know that our military services are protecting our country.
The women and men in our Armed Services are currently facing challenges unlike any in the past. I am absolutely confident that that will continue to uphold the oath they swore upon enlistment: to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
Please keep these heroes in your thoughts during these troubling days.
Non sibi sed patriae
Updated On: 9/25/25 at 03:59 PM
#2"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/25/25 at 5:48pm
Why have all the military leaders been summoned to Virginia?
The heroes protecting us deserve better than Hegseth. Scary, scary times.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#3"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/29/25 at 3:04pm
I read that the perpetrator of yesterday's attack on the Church of Latter Day Saints was a member of the marine corps.
It's absolutely vital that adequate mental health support is provided to veterans on completion of their service. Too many are fcked up forevermore.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#4"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/29/25 at 7:22pm
Both the U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps are celebrating 250th anniversary birthdays in 2025. They were originally established in 1775. Navy: October 13th. Marine Corps: November 10th.
GO NAVY !!
GO MARINE CORPS !!
Non sibi sed patriae
#5
Posted: 9/30/25 at 8:48pm
In light of today's travesty, it is simply impossible for any honorable soldier to serve under Trump as Commander in Chief. Those who remain loyal to him at this point are the enemies of freedom.
Updated On: 9/30/25 at 08:48 PM#6"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/30/25 at 8:54pm
kdogg36 said: "In light of today's travesty, it is simply impossible for any honorable soldier to serve under Trump as Commander in Chief. Those who remain loyal to him at this point are scum."
What a stupid, filthy comment. Even for you.
Non sibi sed patriae
#7"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/30/25 at 8:56pm
Highland Guy said: "What a stupid, filthy comment. Even for you."
In the interests of honesty, I should acknowledge that I edited my comment (while Highland Guy was responding) to tone down my rhetoric. Before, I said they were "scum," not just "enemies of freedom." But I stand by it either way.
#8"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/30/25 at 8:58pm
Highland Guy said: "What a stupid, filthy comment. Even for you."
Are you saying that an honorable person could agree to carry guns for, or take orders from, the likes of Donald Trump? Because that would be a stupid thing to say - even for you.
#9
Posted: 9/30/25 at 8:59pm
Even revised, it remains a filthy, stupid comment. You know NOTHING about what stresses our troops are under. So, politely, SHUT THE F*CK UP.
Non sibi sed patriae
Updated On: 9/30/25 at 08:59 PM
#10"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/30/25 at 9:13pm
At what point can troops consider the possibility of a coup? We’ve seen it in other countries. Look what happened only recently when the madman in South Korea tried to weaponize the military against his own people. It didn’t end well for him.
South Korea are a civilized democracy, not much different from the US. What is SO outrageous about pondering if something similar could happen with Trump?
I’m not necessarily advocating for it right now, like I said, just pondering. This moment in history is unprecedented, which means unprecedented things need to happen to solve it.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#11"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/30/25 at 10:00pm
HG, what do you think of "conscientious objectors"? That's really all kdogg is asking for, it seems to me. Not unreasonable.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#12"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 9/30/25 at 10:37pm
Thanks to Senator Mark Kelly for his comments tonight in support of the women and men who serve courageously in our military services. And thanks also to Senator Kelly for his honorable military service.
His strong words put to rest the filthy, disgusting LIE that our military members are SCUM. They are HEROES who day after day defend The United States of America.
Non sibi sed patriae
#13"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 10/1/25 at 10:48am
"I, (insert name), do solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same... that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States, and the orders of those officers appointed over me according to regulations and the uniform code of military justice. So help me God."
What if the domestic enemies include the President of the United States?
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#14"Thumbs Up" For Our Military Services
Posted: 10/1/25 at 11:39am
Jay, thanks for phrasing my proposition much more perspicuously than I was able to. I think it's a critical conversation to have, though of course I don't expect that conversation to get very far on the BWW off-topic board. 
#15
Posted: 10/1/25 at 11:55am
Jay Lerner-Z said: ""I, (insert name), do solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign anddomestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same... that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States, and the orders of those officers appointed over me according to regulations and the uniform code of military justice. So help me God."
What if the domestic enemies include the President of the United States?"
If you and your lap dog kdogg are so gung ho about what our brave military members should do, why don't you BOTH take the oath, put on uniforms, and join the good fight? Why are you letting others do the fighting for you? Are you afraid?
Oh, I forgot. Internet trolls are always cowards
Non sibi sed patriae
Updated On: 10/1/25 at 11:55 AM
#16
Posted: 10/1/25 at 12:51pm
Highland Guy said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: ""I, (insert name), do solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign anddomestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same... that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States, and the orders of those officers appointed over me according to regulations and the uniform code of military justice. So help me God."
What if the domestic enemies include the President of the United States?"
If you and your lap dog kdogg are so gung ho about what our brave military members should do, why don't you BOTH take the oath, put on uniforms, and join the good fight? Why are you letting others do the fighting for you? Are you afraid?
Oh, I forgot. Internet trolls are always cowards
Why can't you just answer the question that was asked?
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SteveSanders
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#17
Posted: 10/1/25 at 1:01pm
FAQ on refusing illegal orders:
https://nlgmltf.org/military-law/2025/faq-on-refusing-illegal-orders/
#18
Posted: 10/1/25 at 1:46pm
It was a thrilling air show for hundreds of thousands.
And to quote one of America's brave heroes in this brief video, "It's about PRIDE and SERVICE".
Non sibi sed patriae
#19
Posted: 10/1/25 at 6:32pm
I have not yet joined the military because I’m a) unsure if I want to, b) unsure if I have the mental and physical stamina, c) believe my skills to be of more use elsewhere in "fighting the good fight", d) am extremely wary of the Military Industrial Complex, of which Eisenhower warned us about decades ago, e) never fell for the Uncle Sam Needs You propaganda, and f) have other more immediate and important familial responsibilities.
Does this really make me a coward?
Slight whiff of toxic masculinity off of HG's post.
P.S. Kdogg is not my lap dog, nor I his. I’m sure if we dug deeper, we'd find plenty to disagree on. Which I’m confident both of us would be fine with, because we don't deem those who don't exactly align with our own world view to be trolls and bullies.
P.P.S. Thanks for that link, Steve.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#20
Posted: 10/1/25 at 6:37pm
To throw the question back at you, Highland Guy…
why did YOU join the military? I’m sure you had noble intentions and aspirations, but I’ve always wondered why you signed up (illegally?) for somewhere you were not welcome. You've spoken of meeting your husband in the navy, and finding happiness together. How did that work in such homophobic times?
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
Updated On: 10/1/25 at 06:37 PM
MysteriousLady
Stand-by Joined: 10/24/20
#21
Posted: 10/1/25 at 7:04pm
Highland Guy said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: ""I, (insert name), do solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign anddomestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same... that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States, and the orders of those officers appointed over me according to regulations and the uniform code of military justice. So help me God."
What if the domestic enemies include the President of the United States?"
If you and your lap dog kdogg are so gung ho about what our brave military members should do, why don't you BOTH take the oath, put on uniforms, and join the good fight? Why are you letting others do the fighting for you? Are you afraid?
Oh, I forgot. Internet trolls are always cowards
"
Lapdog is the perfect way to describe the weird relationship between kdogg and Jay.
#22
Posted: 10/1/25 at 7:09pm
Are you applying for the position of Highland Guy's lapdog, MysteriousLady?
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#23
Posted: 10/1/25 at 7:37pm
Eisenhower's dark warning. Sadly ignored.
I wonder what he would have thought about Vietnam, Iraq, etc.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
#24
Posted: 10/1/25 at 8:00pm
Back on topic.
Very close to MCAS Miramar is the Miramar National Cemetery. I have many friends and former shipmates buried here. My first commanding officer lies in rest here. If you want to learn about HEROES, visit a national cemetery. Countless service people and their spouses since this country was formed willingly gave up much in support of the USA. Others continue to do so today. They are not SCUM.
Non sibi sed patriae
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