#2
Posted: 11/12/12 at 11:44pm
Poor Elmo's neck sleeve smells like 16 year olds!
"I am a Gay man and never tried to hide it!"- I call BS Kevin, how long did you hide behind your wife and daughter in Baltimore?
"I am a Gay man and never tried to hide it!"- I call BS Kevin, how long did you hide behind your wife and daughter in Baltimore?
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Updated On: 11/12/12 at 11:44 PM
#3
Posted: 11/12/12 at 11:54pm
To be fair, his entire career centered on hiding.
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#4
Posted: 11/12/12 at 11:58pm
This is very true. Doesn't stop him from being a douche though!
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#5
Posted: 11/13/12 at 12:34am
Yeah. I just say I am really grateful for ALL of the sexual experiences I had with men in their 30s and 40s when I was in my late teens. I woulda been freaked out if any of them did puppet voices, I think.
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#6
Posted: 11/13/12 at 12:39am
"Yeah suck it! Elmo's coming! Hehehehehehehehahahaha!"
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Updated On: 11/13/12 at 12:39 AM
#8
Posted: 11/13/12 at 12:42am
"Elmo says: Feels so right!! heee hee he haa haa ha!"
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Updated On: 11/13/12 at 12:42 AM
#10
Posted: 11/13/12 at 12:55am
"This special moment was brought to you by the number 16!"
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#12
Posted: 11/13/12 at 11:03am
Can we please not equate a sexual relationship (if it even happened) with a sixteen year old with pedophilia? Please?
In a world where Courtney Stodden could be married to Doug Hutchison, can we not call for this man to go to jail?
In a world where Courtney Stodden could be married to Doug Hutchison, can we not call for this man to go to jail?
#13
Posted: 11/13/12 at 11:08am
I overheard two elderqueens around my age talking about this last night. "These people who are predators on children are SICK."
I'm glad when I was 16 and 17 there were older guys who could, to quote Peter Frampton, show me the way without all this mishegas.
I'm glad when I was 16 and 17 there were older guys who could, to quote Peter Frampton, show me the way without all this mishegas.
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#14
Posted: 11/13/12 at 11:21am
I, alas, didn't have that. But there was a moment that it could have happened. I was 17 and the guy was in his mid to late 20's. He was adorable...and knew I had a crush on him. Somehow...I think I would have been a-ok if I was introduced to the ways of the flesh by this guy.
#15
Posted: 11/13/12 at 12:45pm
If we can have someone in their fifties marry a teenager, and have that not be a legal matter. Can we not at least wait until all the details come out on Clash before hanging him? After all, Clash did say that he waited until the guy was 18. Secondly I think that this whole thing is quickly turning into a he said/he said debate between the two of them.
And, when you're portraying the poster child of wholesome children's entertainment, it would't shock me to find out that Clash had to lie in public forums about being gay.
And, when you're portraying the poster child of wholesome children's entertainment, it would't shock me to find out that Clash had to lie in public forums about being gay.
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#16
Posted: 11/13/12 at 2:41pm
Being Elmo was a good doc but the fact that Clash only talked about his ex-wife through the context of his daughter and really not much else on his personal life, I guess Clash as producer of the oc wanted him to just portray himself as married to the job, seemed a little bit telling. But I never thought it was because that marriage may have dissolved due to his closeted sexuality.
Was his sexuality ever an open secret to his co-workers? I cannot imagine an instance where Sesame Street would be nothing but supportive of their performers. Yes it is a kids program but there is something with Elmo that is for a specifically young children that. I could see had Clash came out years ago there would be backlash. But it still could have done a lot of good if he did.
Also because Elmo is for younger children I was worried the abuse allegation were from an incident with a young child. So needless to say I was a little relieved when the age came out. Now had I been the parent of this kid would I be happy about finding out that my 16 year old was with a middle aged man? Doubt it,
Was his sexuality ever an open secret to his co-workers? I cannot imagine an instance where Sesame Street would be nothing but supportive of their performers. Yes it is a kids program but there is something with Elmo that is for a specifically young children that. I could see had Clash came out years ago there would be backlash. But it still could have done a lot of good if he did.
Also because Elmo is for younger children I was worried the abuse allegation were from an incident with a young child. So needless to say I was a little relieved when the age came out. Now had I been the parent of this kid would I be happy about finding out that my 16 year old was with a middle aged man? Doubt it,
#17
Posted: 11/13/12 at 3:35pm
Kevin came out about 10-12 years ago I believe to his co-workers, though I think it was an openly known secret to those who worked close with him. Even back in the late 1980's he basically lived here in NYC leaving his wife and daughter in Baltimore.
CTW and Sesame Street woud not have a problem with an openly gay performer, though I am sure his contract with them has a morality clause. It is the thing they are using evidently with the internet abuse thing to have him step down while he straightens this thing out.
CTW and Sesame Street woud not have a problem with an openly gay performer, though I am sure his contract with them has a morality clause. It is the thing they are using evidently with the internet abuse thing to have him step down while he straightens this thing out.
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#18
Posted: 11/13/12 at 3:50pm
If it's a legitimate tickle, a child's body has a way of shutting the whole thing down.
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Updated On: 11/14/12 at 03:50 PM
#19
Posted: 11/13/12 at 5:39pm
#20
Posted: 11/13/12 at 6:21pm
In a related story, Kevin Clash's accuser, puts a down payment on a 4 Million dollar sea front home.
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#21
Posted: 11/13/12 at 7:08pm
Didn't Courtney's parents sign off on their marriage though? Or she's legal in the state they married in? I forget the details.
My comments earlier about 25 to life weren't meant to be taken seriously.
How do we know that Clash wasn't 100% hands off before the kid turned 18? Couldn't dirty talk and lewd behavior, however "innocent" still be considered a crime?
My comments earlier about 25 to life weren't meant to be taken seriously.
How do we know that Clash wasn't 100% hands off before the kid turned 18? Couldn't dirty talk and lewd behavior, however "innocent" still be considered a crime?
#22
Posted: 11/13/12 at 8:06pm
While I don't really think a 16 year old with a middle aged man (or woman) is a good idea, there's been so little context about this given, it's hard to judge. The way the story has been played by the media does initially seem to be aimed at making people think he was inolved with one of the pre-pubescent children he worked with on the show.
And wait--the original link says The Count died??
When was that? (And here I still remember how upsetting the death of Mr Hooper was--one of my earliest memories).
And wait--the original link says The Count died??
When was that? (And here I still remember how upsetting the death of Mr Hooper was--one of my earliest memories).
#23
Posted: 11/13/12 at 8:23pm
According to The Times, the accuser has recanted and admits that the relationship was between consenting adults. Now we get to see what effect this has on the rest of Kevin Clash's life.
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#24
Posted: 11/13/12 at 8:45pm
Eric, Jerry Nelson, who was the original puppeteer and voice actor for the Count, died back in the end of August. Though he was no longer serving as the puppeteer for the Count due to his age and health, he continued to voice the character until he died. I don't know if they have retired the character or if others have taken on the voice acting, but I assume the mention in the article was more in reference to Nelson's passing than to them actually killing the Count off on Sesame Street.
#25
Posted: 11/13/12 at 8:48pm
AH, thanks--I did hear about that, but the article threw me by naming Jim Henson and then name The Count as a character but not the man behind him.
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