Who slaps a toddler?! — Page 2

I don't know. I've taken my son out to dinner and been complimented by other diners on how well behaved he is. I've never felt the need to hit him other than a swat on the bottom if he does something that is a danger to him. I've never even felt the need to put him in "time out' He's just a good kid. I know - everyone says that about their own kid but he's always so respectful to his friends' parents - I swear they would adopt him. However, he's 9. He's not a toddler. Toddlers are still trying to figure out their place in the world. They haven't figured out how to behave yet. If someone had slapped my son when he was a toddler I would have totally gone postal on them.

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Sanity has nothing to do with it. The guy was drunk. They said he reeked of alcohol when he got on the plane and drank throughout the flight.

Of course the guy says he only had one drink....

I'm agree with those who think a child deserves a good swat when they've earned it. But, no mater how much I hate kids, I would never want to see you called the N word and slapped by a stranger.

I probably would have gone postal as well.

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We had a local story recently about a postal worker who, well, went postal, and choked a girl for laughing at him.

Later, he said he was having a really bad day.


You think?!

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I guess he mistakenly walked into the ladies restroom in a public area. The girls were laying at him and calling him 'stupid'. He snapped.


But some kids make you want to do that.

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It's not OK to verbally abuse anyone.
It's not OK to physically assault anyone.
It's not OK to use alcohol as an excuse.
Add to the equation that this is a child and I'm doubly disgusted by this story.

This thread got a bit off topic but I have my opinions on bad parenting too. I'd like to take some of you with the shorter reserves of patience to work with me sometime so you can meet my caseload of parents :)

Jane, that is definitely on the mothers. If Henry was kicking the glass, I would have applauded you for saying something if I didn't know he was doing it. But I would hope I would have been paying enough attention to him that I would have seen it myself.

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Jane, these mothers are the ones who grew up with the pass/fail system. With the concept that everyone should win a prize because everyone was special. Of course when they have kids they will carry that forward. "I am special therefore my child is doubly special!". I live in a building filled with young parents. Every one of these children are "Special, God's gifts to the world". So what if the building rules say no bicycle riding or scootering in the hallways, because my child is the exception to the rule, being so special". I don't blame the kids for that. I hold the parents responsible.
In January, I flew back from a short vacation in Miami. Seated next to me was a young Mom and her child, probably around 4. As soon as the plane started moving the child began to scream kick and throw things. The mother, when he did this would draw him close in a loving embrace, kiss and hug him and sing sweetly to him... Rewarding bad behavior much? He would quiet down and when he wanted attention would repeat the same behaivor. He got the same reward. At one point she handed him a bottle with apple juice. A bottle at 4? He took to sips and hurled it and actually broke the little TV in front of my seat! What was his punishement? She drew him near, sang songs to him and caressed him. This continued non stop from Miami to New York. We were the seat in row in the bulk head just behind first class. The passengers there kept giving ME dirty looks as if I were the kid's father or Grandfather! I do not blame the child but the mother for lack of parenting skills! I was more inclined to slap her!

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SNAFU and tiny, right on. It's a huge quality of life problem. I even read an article about an airline was thinking of setting aside a section of seating for kids.

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I totally agree with the parents assessment. I went to a show with my 3 sisters in December that was aimed at children mostly. I made comments about starting the show late and how people should learn consequences of being late. My 1 sister, who used to be a teacher, said "Do you want to deal with a bunch of pissed off parents?" Then afterwards I commented about people talking, including adults, and she again pulled the kids card.

I know I'm younger than many people in this thread, but even I knew to be quiet and behave at a movie or anywhere else like that. My parents never had to tell me to be quiet or stop doing something disruptive. Then again, maybe I was really happy to see a movie or something.

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And now he has lost his job.
Terminated

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I'm so happy he lost his job. I hope he is never employed again and sinks to the lowest despair imaginable for a scumbag like him.

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^^^^

All of the above. I generally don't agree with people being fired for what they do on their own time, but this is an obvious exception. This guy needs help - and jail time.

I think the problem goes far deeper than the alcohol. I've been roaring drunk, but would never EVER consider slapping a child, no matter how annoying.