Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Cruel_Sandwich
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/30/05
#1Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/18/07 at 9:37pmIf someone awarded you a British honour, would you accept or decline it?
#2re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/18/07 at 9:40pmWhy would you if you couldn't use it? If an American is knighted by the Queen they can't officially be called Sir or Dame in the US.
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#2re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/18/07 at 9:45pm
I actually know someone who is a real knight of the realm! Funny thing is he is like "I am a titled knight because I was born"
There is something else about earning the title.
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alterego
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/5/03
#3re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/18/07 at 11:15pmI'd accept it in a flash. No matter how good, bad or indifferent you are you do get added respect.
alterego
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/5/03
#4re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/18/07 at 11:16pmI'd accept it in a flash. No matter how good, bad or indifferent you are you do get added respect.
#5re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/18/07 at 11:25pmIt is like an honorary college degree. It means nothing in the real world, just acknowledges your achievements in the real world.
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen."
Conan O'Brien
#6re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 2:54amI cant imagine anyone offered a gesture of recognition for work done as world-class as this and saying, "Oh well, I cant use this in the US, so I think I'll give it a pass."
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DG
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#7re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 3:04am
I would only accept if I were officially designated a Dame.
And Sean, people have declined honors for many reasons. Kate Hepburn refused the original offer of the Kennedy Center Honors because of who was president at the time.
Personally, I wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with it as it's tied into a caste system that I not only disdain, but have ZERO comprehension as to how it still exists in our world today.
#8re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 7:06am
Some people who have already been knighted are George Bush (the former president), Rudolph Giuliani, Steven Spielberg, Alan Greenspan, Bill Gates and Sidney Poitier.
Who would even know this if you did not look it up? None of them can carry those titles in the US. I guess it's a good conversation piece at parties.
"Smart! And into all those exotic mystiques -- The Kama Sutra and Chinese techniques. I hear she knows more than seventy-five. Call me tomorrow if you're still alive!"
vmlinnie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/06
#9re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 7:15am
It's nothing to do with the US, it's countries outside the commonwealth.
I would accept the honour itself (in the case of a knighthood, this would be a KBE, DBE or GBE, as O-, C- and MBEs are not knighthoods). However, I would not take the title 'Sir'.
There is the option if you so wish to take the title. For example, Irish Rugby player-turned-businessman Sir Anthony O'Reilly insists on using his title, and everyone calls him Sir for that reason, and it is recognized. However, Bob Geldof could be a 'Sir', but doesn't use the title.
Although I love going to Britain, spending time there, and I know many people there and from there, I am not British. I would be honoured to be rewarded for whatever I've done, but as an Irish citizen by birth, heritage and passport, I would not take a British formal title.
The rain we knew is a thing of the past -
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
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deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
#10re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:09amI would accept it. I've done enough genealogy to know that I actually have British ties :) Plus like mom & seanmartin said, it's recognition of your accomplishments, what you have given to society. Whether or not you can/would use the title is irrelevant. Your work has been recognized
In your choice is your talent. ~Adler
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vmlinnie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/06
#11re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:11amWell, my grandmother was English, adopted to here by an irish family, but I'm still Irish, regardless of my geneaology.
The rain we knew is a thing of the past -
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
#12re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:15amhoney your ties are closer than mine lol. there hasn't been a true Englishman in my family since 1716 when the last one died
In your choice is your talent. ~Adler
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
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Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
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#13re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:26am
"It's nothing to do with the US, it's countries outside the commonwealth."
The last time I checked the US was outside of the commonwealth.
"Smart! And into all those exotic mystiques -- The Kama Sutra and Chinese techniques. I hear she knows more than seventy-five. Call me tomorrow if you're still alive!"
#14re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:31ami think he meant it wasnt ONLY the US. meaning anyone from any country outside the commonwealth including ireland, wales, and scotland although they are considered part of the UK
In your choice is your talent. ~Adler
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
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Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
#15re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:39amYes, also being from a Commonwealth country I happen to know this information. The US reference was just based on the majority of the people who are on this board.
"Smart! And into all those exotic mystiques -- The Kama Sutra and Chinese techniques. I hear she knows more than seventy-five. Call me tomorrow if you're still alive!"
vmlinnie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/06
#16re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:44am
I was just pointing out that most people here have said they couldn't because they're from the US, which strictly speaking isn't true, it's not just because they're from America, it's because they're not from the commonwealth.
And Ireland is not part of the UK, nor is it considered so. We are not part of the United Kingdom, not since 1921, and not part of the commonwealth since 1949. However, Wales and Scotland are both part of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth (as is Northern Ireland, which is a seperate entity) and so anyone from there can be a 'Sir' or 'Dame'.
The rain we knew is a thing of the past -
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
deep-delving, dark, deliberate you would say
browsing on spire and bogland; but today
our sky-blue slates are steaming in the sun,
our yachts tinkling and dancing in the bay
like racehorses. We contemplate at last
shining windows, a future forbidden to no one.
Derek Mahon
"Maybe all one can do is hope to end up with the right regrets."
Arthur Miller
#17re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:46amsorry linnie. i'm studying history just not recent european history :)
In your choice is your talent. ~Adler
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
#18re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:58am
Just to continue wit the history lesson the following countries are members of the Commonwealth:
Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
The Bahamas
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belize
Botswana
Brunei
Cameroon
Canada
Cyprus
Dominica
Gambia
Ghana
Grenada
Guyana
India
Jamaica
Kenya
Kiribati
Lesotho
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Malta
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Nauru
New Zealand
Nigeria
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Samoa
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Solomon Islands
South Africa
Sri Lanka
Swaziland
Tanzania
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago
Tuvalu
Uganda
United Kingdom
Vanuatu
Zambia
Fiji is a suspended member
Former members are:
Irish Free State
Newfoundland (Used to be a separate country - is now a province of Canada)
Tanganyika
Zanzibar
Zimbabwe
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Updated On: 7/19/07 at 08:58 AM
#19re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 8:59amgoogle is your friend :)
In your choice is your talent. ~Adler
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
#20re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 9:00amI would accept the honor, whether or not I could use the title in the U.S. or not.
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#21re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 9:03am
"google is your friend :)"
Yes it is. It also helped that I worked at a Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting once.
"Smart! And into all those exotic mystiques -- The Kama Sutra and Chinese techniques. I hear she knows more than seventy-five. Call me tomorrow if you're still alive!"
#22re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 9:05amhehe pab i said that cause every time i ask my husband a question that i expect he'll know the answer to, he tells me "google is your friend."
In your choice is your talent. ~Adler
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
#23re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 9:08am
Oh I fully agree with our husband. I wish more people on here would learn to use it, and at the same time maybe they can also take a look at the search feature on this board. 
"Smart! And into all those exotic mystiques -- The Kama Sutra and Chinese techniques. I hear she knows more than seventy-five. Call me tomorrow if you're still alive!"
#24re: Would You Accept Or Decline Knighthood?
Posted: 7/19/07 at 9:12am
hehe i hear ya. i wish my mother would learn to use it.
i just read your signature. that's funny. what's that from?
In your choice is your talent. ~Adler
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
Acting is the art of speaking in a loud clear voice and the avoidance of bumping into the furniture. ~Alfred Lunt
http://www.myspace.com/pollyhidalgo
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