Your Favorite Presidents and First Ladies — Page 4

I am a feminist.

The whole history of the world has been decided by patriarchy. We are literally ALL impacted by it. Even Jesus was a man. God is a man. The 12 apostles were men. Moving on up, every US president has been a man. Not so long ago, women could not even vote. It took until 2021 before we even had a woman vice president. World War 2 was all about the men. Hitler, Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, Truman, Mussolini. Where were the women? 1776. The Founding "Fathers"? Where are the Founding "Mothers"? Patriarchy has literally shaped society as it is today, and has defined our everyday lives. I am allowed to judge it.

The "choices" that women make can sometimes make effect EVERYBODY by carrying on the ridiculous culture of the man, the husband, being the "head of the household". Mostly I do not blame women that take their husband's surname, or give it to their children... this is just the world we live in. I would MUCH prefer a world where Hillary Rodham had not lost the election simply because some idiot conservatives could not face the fact that she wore trousersuits.

Islander_fan said: "And, bit of friendly advice, google what it means to be a troll on an online message board. You’ll see that you fit that definition to a T. And, when it comes to you getting another suspension to this forum or notice that a post of yours has been deleted. You really should try to reflect on what it may have been that had either of those things to occur. The woe is me mindset around it is just annoying."

Thank you. I hate the stench of bullies and trolls.

I can, and I will.

I've humored you enough for today. When people demean and de-humanize me by referring to my "stench", I am not very encouraged to continue.

A "Tribute Service" for First Lady Rosalynn Carter will be held tomorrow, November 28th. Invited guests include Presidents Biden and Clinton; Vice-President Kamala Harris, and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff.

Also attending are every living current and former First Lady (Jill Biden, Melanie Trump, Michele Obama, Hilary Clinton, and Laura Bush).

An historic gathering, much deserved for First Lady Carter.

"Also attending are every living current and former First Lady (Jill Biden, Melanie Trump, Michele Obama, Hilary Clinton, and Laura Bush)."

Probably just a typo but it is Melania Trump not Melanie Trump.

As a former military spouse, it is so appropriate that service members at this moment are escorting the casket of First Lady Rosalynn Carter. Very moving.

Jay Lerner-Z said: "I suspect that you will not take this comment well, HG... but PLEASE stop whitewashing gay history. Oppression needs to be remembered and recognized. You were NEVER a military spouse. Not only was it illegal for gay men to serve during your time, it was also illegal for two men to marry. You are painting a false picture. This is dangerous.

If you have been retrospectively recognized by law, and paid appropriate entitlements, that is great. If you are referring to your time married to a woman, forget what I just said."



I have never said I was a military spouse. My comment was about First Lady Rosalynn Carter being a former military spouse. But troll on, you ****ing moron.

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Oh. Sorry.

I should have know you were defining her by the actions of her husband."



Don't you DARE demean the value of our military spouses and families. Just shut your mouth. Even on this day of sorrow for the passing of First Lady Rosalynn Carter, you show what a bully and troll you are. You have no limits.

"Ta Ta For Now" First Lady Rosalynn Carter. WELL DONE !!

60 Minutes put this up on YouTube today. I ask you to watch.

From 1977, Morley Safer visits the White House for an interview with Mrs. Carter. The conversation starts by asking about her (misogynistic) nickname, "Steel Magnolia". It then moves on to how Southern women are "very loving and affectionate" to their menfolk. She answers such stupidity very well. After some questioning about the marital troubles of her children, the interview moves on to her heavy duties of arranging seating for an upcoming state dinner. She explains how she likes to sit spouses next to each other. We then move to the kitchen where the First Lady is asked about her cooking skills. She explains how she went to cooking classes once a week back in Atlanta. Her talent as a ballerina is lacking, unfortunately, we also learn.

The interview ends on a more interesting note. "Don't you ever feel there is something you would like to do just for yourself?" she is asked. "I do, I do" she laughs, "... that is very important to me". The interviewer follows up with "Do you ever, in your low moments, wish you were not First Lady?" She answers quietly, "sometimes... yes."

Now let me ask you this. Is it really so "shameful" and "despicable" for me to be under the impression that her intellect was wasted?

Jay Lerner-Z said: "I only saw some of it, the part where Jason spoke, but it was a very nice service. Melania looked friendless.

I heard a commentator say that John Lennon's "Imagine" was performed, which struck me as an odd choice for a religious ceremony. Perhaps it was a nod to the current events in Palestine/Israel. Which reminded me of October 1 this year, when I started a thread in honor of Jimmy's 99th birthday recommending his book"Palestine, Peace not Apartheid". If some of the mourners here had as much respect for the Carters as I did, and actually paid heed to his warnings, perhaps the world would be a better place.

Sadly, moderators deleted my thread. I suspect it had been reported. I guess President Carter is a troll too."

Do you ever stop and think about why you troll around here or even why some of your posts get deleted? I can assure you it’s not done out of spite/people not liking you. That’s for sure.

Wrong thread, delete

Updated On: 11/29/23 at 10:20 AM