clinton vs. sanders your vote?- Page 144

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/4/16 at 11:09pm

Whatever.

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 6/4/16 at 11:59pm

It's 8-1 (Clinton) in the Virgin Islands. Happy this is finally coming to a close, regardless of how long Sanders will pointlessly drag it out.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 9:52am

 

DAILYBEAST: The White Entitlement of Some Sanders Supporters: If you’re young, white and privileged, you don’t expect to lose. When you do, it must be because you got cheated. Blacks know better.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/05/the-white-entitlement-of-some-sanders-supporters.html

 

 

[madbrian]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 10:19am

Once HRC locks up the nomination on Tuesday, the Dems need Obama, Biden, and WARREN to explicitly jump on the bandwagon. 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 10:39am

Well, people are already calling the "get ready, Donald - we're coming" tweet that Warren put out last night, either her endorsement or another sign that she will be Hillary's VP pick. 

And she might lock up that nomination at 3pm today when the polls close. I don't think there's any polling data from P.R. and she has a history of doing great there. So, we'll see...

[H.Higgins]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 11:48am

This article should be everywhere:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/03/bernie-sanders-s-final-few-days-of-california-dreamin.html

Bernie, take notice: you have lost in pledged delegates and the popular vote. You say the superdelegates are illegitimate, so stop suggesting that they ignore the voters and go with you. THAT would be the only way this process is "rigged". Time to do the right thing.

[javero]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 2:54pm

This election cycle has me drawing parallels between Hillary Clinton and tennis champion Serena Williams.  Both are pioneering American women in their respective spheres yet they remain somewhat polarizing figures.  While many Americans have finally warmed to them, there's a huge contingent that will root for anyone else by default.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 3:29pm

Oh, honey. What exactly is your definition of "warmed?" 

 

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/clinton_favorableunfavorable-1131.html

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/276078-clintons-dismal-approval-ratings-prompt-dem-fears

http://www.wsj.com/articles/independents-are-souring-on-hillary-clinton-1462310510

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 3:59pm

 None of those matter. This is all that matters, from yesterday's Reuters poll:

 

"Clinton leads Trump among women by 15 points. More surprisingly, perhaps, Clinton now also leads Trump among male voters. In mid-May, Trump led Clinton by 7 points among men. Currently, though, Clinton leads Trump by 8 points among men, a 15-point swing.

"Trump continues to lead Clinton among seniors. Voters older than 60 prefer Trump by 6 points, 43-37. Clinton dominates among young voters, though. She leads among voters younger than 35 by 30 points, 54-24. Clinton currently enjoys a bigger margin among young voters than President Obama did in 2012 against Mitt Romney."

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 4:01pm

 

REUTERS: Politics | Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:02pm EDT

Clinton opens up double-digit lead over Trump nationwide: Reuters/Ipsos poll

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0YP2EX

 

 

 

[South Florida]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 5:44pm

"That would drive Bernie's cult INSANE and I think I would love it."

Spend your hate on Trump, and calling the people a "cult" who support him makes you and sabrelady look like children.  The support he has gotten from working class and middle class Americans is mind blowing. He and his ilk are the future.  If anything is a cult, it's the cult of Clintonites.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 5:59pm

Oh, PalJoey. You know better than to not throw in links on a different topic. We weren't discussing her electability against Trump. I think a tin can could beat Donald Trump, the man's a nightmare. I was specifically discussing her unfavorables, which is completely independent of Trump.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 6:02pm

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 6:52pm

 

I'm sure Dr. Jill Stein wouldn't mind helping to elect Trump, just like her idol, Ralph Nader, was perfectly happy to take money from the GOP and help elect George Bush.

 

[South Florida]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 7:01pm

PJ, the people who liked Nader are the people who like Bernie right now.  I hope you folks stop trying to demonize his supporters.  Bernie Sanders is not the Ralph Nader guy.  We all know the formula, and Bernie not supporting her is not going to happen.  The day after the convention Hillary will be close to 65% in national polls.

 

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 7:48pm

For the UMPTEENTH FECKING TIME Nader is not the reason Bush won in 2000.  Bush won because he stole votes and because Gore was a stiff, uninspiring, milquetoast candidate who allowed the GOP to smear his name over and over.  And because DEMOCRAT CONSTITUENTS VOTED FOR BUSH OVER GORE.  Democracy failed in 2000.  America failed in 2000.  You know it.  I know it.  Everybody knows it.  So don't dare try to re-write the ugliness of this recent history to prove an idiotic point, please. 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth



 

In more interesting news:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/6/5/1534666/--Fueling-Sanders-Turnout-Hope-California-Reports-Record-Surge-of-New-Voters

I'm also suspecting a surge of record new voter fraud courtesy of the Democratic party.  The kind of Democrat who would support Bush.

Updated On: 6/5/16 at 07:48 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 8:39pm

For the umpteenth and ONE time: Nader took money from the GOP and spoiled it for Gore, who was a perfectly fine candidate and lost by a thread. Pull on that thread and it unravels to Ralph Nader, who turned his back on a lifetime of progressivism and took money from Karl Rove to help defeat Gore.

In this country, one thing is true: If you don't elect the Democrat, all you do is elect the Republican.

And that, as they say, is show biz.

 

We'll see whether the new voters in California outvote the Latino voters, who sometimes turn out in big numbers and sometimes don't.

Updated On: 6/6/16 at 08:39 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/5/16 at 10:31pm

The Washington Post says it's over.

 

WASHINGTON POST: How Bernie Sanders missed his chance to beat Hillary Clinton

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bernie-sanders-missed-his-chance-to-beat-hillary-clinton/2016/06/05/5dc4c12e-28ec-11e6-a3c4-0724e8e24f3f_story.html

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/6/16 at 7:56am

 

The time for fighting among ourselves is over.

 

NY TIMES OP-ED: Sanders Fans, I Get Your Pain. But Let’s Unite Against Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/06/opinion/campaign-stops/sanders-fans-i-get-your-pain-but-lets-unite-against-trump.html

 

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/6/16 at 8:25am

 

WALL STREET JOURNAL: Bernie Sanders Campaign Is Split Over Whether to Fight on Past Tuesday: The senator has vowed to press his case, but some urge him to unite behind Clinton

http://www.wsj.com/article_email/bernie-sanders-campaign-is-split-over-whether-to-fight-on-past-tuesday-1465171997-lMyQjAxMTE2MzAwNjIwOTYyWj

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 6/6/16 at 9:23am

Zzzzzzzzzz.....  

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/6/16 at 10:07am

The headline on today's Huffington Post: REVOLUTION ON LIFE SUPPORT.

[Auggie27]

Posted: 6/6/16 at 10:49am

Let us hope.  His recent statement "It will be a contested convention" is absolutely infused with a rancorous unwillingness to accept any concept of defeat. And every time he digs his heels in, his base doubles down with their conspiratorial fervor about rigging and theft.  The Sarandon led preference for chaos  -- in effect, "Let 'em eat Trump steaks!" -- permeates factions of Sanders' supporters, the belief that a Trump presidency will invite rioting, paralysis and thus spur Sanders-inpsired "revolution." (Form, as ever, TBD.). They completely ignore SCOTUS, quality of life legislation, threats of reversed hard-won Obama-era progressive achievement that impacts millions.  The rarefied air they breath is clotted with self-indulgence and privilege.  I hope the Clinton surrogates are clear-eyed about this faction's agenda as an immediate obstacle.  They cannot be wooed, even with a far left choice for VP, only overridden with decisive action. After Tuesday, patience will be in short supply.  The monster awaits us.    

Updated On: 6/6/16 at 10:49 AM

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 6/6/16 at 10:57am

The gravity of a Trump Presidency is lost in translation with the BernieTots:

Asked why she went to see Mr. Sanders last month in her hometown, National City, Calif., Angelica Arroyo said it was like watching a “superstar.”

“I just feel like this is, like, for a bucket list,” said Ms. Arroyo, 21.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/6/16 at 11:51am

No cause for despair. Today's MTV Elect This survey finds that 57% of millennial Bernie supporters will vote for Clinton.

 

POLITICUSUSA: Study Finds 57% Of Millennial Sanders Supports Will Vote For Clinton After He Drops Out: A new study from MTV's Elect This found that 57% of millennial Bernie Sanders supporters are already planning on voting for Hillary Clinton after Sanders drops out.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/06/study-finds-57-millennial-sanders-supports-vote-clinton-drops.html