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#51

re: was i being unreasonable?

Uh, muscle, what would Abba's getting upset if someone asked her to put out her cats have to do with holding a grudge?
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#52

re: was i being unreasonable?

Gah. Double post.


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Updated On: 5/18/07 at 12:09 AM

#53

re: was i being unreasonable?

In my new job I very recently received training about nut allergies and I totally understand the importance of informing the customer of any dish containing nuts or nut oils (and I've successfully resisted making juvenile nut and nut oil jokes despite my usual level of humor), but my training was based in making sure that a guest with a nut allergy didn't order a dish containing nuts and ACTUALLY INGEST something to which they were allergic.

At no time in my training did anyone mention the orders of the rest of the guests at the table. The focus was on informing the allergic guest of exactly which dishes contain nuts or nut products so that they could make an educated order from our menu.

In your original post you said that you began experiencing symptoms simply because they were consuming nut products in your immediate vicinity. Singingwendy reinforced this with her post about children interacting with one another in a school environment.

I understand that some people can be overly dramatic with their allergies and I know from personal experience that many allergies can be easily overcome, but can nut allergies be so severe as to affect the people around them consuming them?

I'm not being snarky or contrary when I ask that. It has very real and actual implications in my current situation. If I have a customer with a nut allergy and the person sitting next to them orders a dish containing nuts do I as the server need to step up and suggest something else? How does having a nut allergy affect people in your immediate vicinity? I'm genuinely curious about the best standard of protocol when I have a guest who has this issue.
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#54

re: was i being unreasonable?

That's actually a very good question.


All I remember is in middle school, they had a "peanut free table". So the kids who were allergic to peanut butter were required to sit at this table. Sometimes with friends, sometimes without, depending. Either sit there or don't complain if you get an allergic reation. Poor lonely souls.
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#55

re: was i being unreasonable?

wonderwaiter -- this isn't true for everyone with nut allergies, but more often than not, peanut allergies are airborne. Most food allergies are not, though; allergies to peanuts are a little bit distinct in that way, and it makes them much, much more dangerous than other food allergies. Many people who are allergic to peanuts cannot be around them, or anything with them in it -- even the smell can cause sneezing, coughing, itchy eyes, and sometimes more severe anaphylactic reactions. When I was really young, kids in school were doing a project in which they used peanut butter as "glue." I didn't touch it, but just from being in the same room, I almost stopped breathing.
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Updated On: 5/18/07 at 12:22 AM

#56

re: was i being unreasonable?

I did a show in which we cast produce street vendors...nobody thought about the details of the vendors wares until I had to be hospitalized for 2 days with a severe allergic reaction. Turns out, one of the baskets the vendors carried was filled with lemons, limes, and oranges: all of which I am extremely allergic to. I broke out in a severe rash and had a spiking fever of 102.8

i don't know about the nut allergies, but I know if I come within 8 or 10 feet of a fresh citrus fruit I break out like there's no tomorrow. The same applies for the juices of said fruits and any foods including said fruits.
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#57

re: was i being unreasonable?

Right, and my allergy (to wheat) is only if I ingest it. I can touch it and be around it all day long, just can't eat it.
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#58

re: was i being unreasonable?

allergic to wheat? wow, that's one ive not heard of before.
"Applause begets applause in the theatre, as laughter begets laughter and tears beget tears." CLAYTON HAMILTON, "Theory of the Theatre" "I think theater ought to be theatrical ... you know, shuffling the pack in different ways so that it's -- there's always some kind of ambush involved in the experience. You're being ambushed by an unexpected word, or by an elephant falling out of the cupboard, whatever it is." TOM STOPPARD
#59

re: was i being unreasonable?

I don't want to threadjack, but it's actually quite common. They're saying 1 in 100 people have it, but it's very underdiagnosed.
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#60

re: was i being unreasonable?

Yeah I know a couple of people who are allergic to wheat. One guy I know is allergic to:
Strawberries
Certain chocolate
Wheat
Eggs
Dairy products
Lemons/Limes/Oranges
Mint
Peanut Butter


..it's hard to tell what exactly he eats...

Allergies are so sad I think. And scary too. I'm so thankful I don't have any.
I mean, Denzel Washington? Gun to my head..of course.
#61

re: was i being unreasonable?

it has to do with the spores in the air or something... i had it explained to me years ago and forgot most of it.

sometimes it's the type of the food too... i can be around peanuts but not peanutbutter. and i can be around cooked corn but not corn startch.
and some foods i could be around all day and not be bothered unless i eat them, like eggs or wheat or milk, like emcee said.

i made immature nut jokes :)
i told my brother's male friend to keep his nuts to himself when we were at a hockley game haha
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#62

re: was i being unreasonable?

That reminds me of the way some people with peanut allergies can be around (and even eat) peanut oil if it's pressed a certain way, but not others. I can't remember the details, unfortunately.
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#63

re: was i being unreasonable?

I think wheat allergies are more commonly referred to as a gluten allergy. I had to babysit a child with gluten allergies that couldn't have it come in contact with any mucus membranes. She was playing with homemade play-do containing flour and I had to make sure she didn't stick her hands in her eyes or nose or mouth before she washed her hands. Easier said than done with a two-year-old.
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Updated On: 5/18/07 at 12:38 AM

#64

re: was i being unreasonable?

that's how i am with olive oil.
if it's cold pressed it causes me to have stomach cramps. usually the expensive extra virgin olive oil.
but the overly processed cheep stuff is usually fine.
Less is more
Ugly is beautiful
"My brother plays a drag queen... and I'm surprised he looks as good as he does in drag." - Adam Rapp

"thanks, abba. now i'll forever have an image of you as a tattoed hardcore straightedge grrl savaging people in the mosh pit." - papalovesmambo

"Yeah Abba. All the filthy crap you spew out there on those boards. I for one, am equally shocked. :-P" - AnnaK
#65

re: was i being unreasonable?

I think it's more commonly referred to as a gluten allergy.

Yes, it is, but it's usually just easier to say "wheat" as opposed to gluten, which many people do not know what it is. Specifically, it's called Celiac Disease.
"This table, he is over one hundred years old. If I could, I would take an old gramophone needle and run it along the surface of the wood. To hear the music of the voices. All that was said." - Doug Wright, I Am My Own Wife
#66

re: was i being unreasonable?

well there's celiac disease which is a gluten intolerence and gluten is more than just wheat.

and there's a wheat allergy that's just wheat and nothing else.

then there's eosinophilic disease what i have (the reason for my allergies) that's different form both of them but has charecterists of each.
Less is more
Ugly is beautiful
"My brother plays a drag queen... and I'm surprised he looks as good as he does in drag." - Adam Rapp

"thanks, abba. now i'll forever have an image of you as a tattoed hardcore straightedge grrl savaging people in the mosh pit." - papalovesmambo

"Yeah Abba. All the filthy crap you spew out there on those boards. I for one, am equally shocked. :-P" - AnnaK
#67

re: was i being unreasonable?

"Leave me alone"

LOL, you are the one that started it, and quoted me. Go back and re-read it, if you also happen not to be believe me.
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#68

re: was i being unreasonable?

well there's celiac disease which is a gluten intolerence and gluten is more than just wheat.

and there's a wheat allergy that's just wheat and nothing else.


Oh, so many things. So much fun. As for more than just wheat, it's also in rye and barley, but I almost always just say "I'm allergic to wheat." It's definitely the easiest way to describe it.
"This table, he is over one hundred years old. If I could, I would take an old gramophone needle and run it along the surface of the wood. To hear the music of the voices. All that was said." - Doug Wright, I Am My Own Wife
#69

re: was i being unreasonable?

Two of my munchkins are severely allergic to peanuts and peanut butter.... (one is also allergic to sesame seeds) I dont think your request was at all unreasonable.

And at 18, your cousin is old enough to know better.
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#70

re: was i being unreasonable?

And once again, you make no sense. Defy logic. What does who started it have to do with me telling you not to take this further? I did not claim not to have started it. Someone asked how the thread spiraled into said spat, and the answer to his question is that I called you out on your bs. I'm not trying to deny that. Don't talk about putting words into mouths and making things up when you're doing just that. You're not even capable of understanding three words, so, per usual, I will spell out the meaning to you; I called you out and you made a whole big production of starting a personal fight, rather than dealing with the issue at hand. Therefore, I figured you'd attempt to prolong this via PM, or elsewhere. I do not want to hear from you via PM. I do not want to deal with you anymore. That's generally what one means by "leave me alone." It's a "from here on out" statement; it was a nicer way of telling you that following that post, you were welcome to f*ck off. Apparently, though, because of your characteristic density, I can't get what I want. How utterly shocking. I told you to leave me alone, quite simply, because you are infuriating to deal with.

I hope that clears things up for you. Now do it, thanks.


ANYway, I'm not allergic to wheat, but that seems so scary. I mean, dairy is hard to avoid, I can't imagine dealing with being allergic to something that is really just everywhere.
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Updated On: 5/18/07 at 12:49 AM

#71

re: was i being unreasonable?

Back on topic: Your cousin's behavior was inexcusable, and you shouldn't feel the least bit guilty for asking her to respect your allergy. Hopefully she'll be a little more empathetic next time.

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#72

re: was i being unreasonable?


Well, since you are the bully, it is my place to ask you to leave me alone. I have never PMed you, and I honestly have no interest to do so. Goodnight sweetheart.
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-
#73

re: was i being unreasonable?

I don't know whether you're actually that dense and truly miss every point, or just dumb enough to think everyone else is really stupid.

Either way, have a fantastically offensive night!
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#74

re: was i being unreasonable?

luvtheEmcee, take a step back and breathe. I wasn't aware that anything in the conversation had become a spat. muscle23ftl's response may be contrary to your own opinion, but I haven't seen anything about the current discussion that sounded like bullying.

I'd rather not get involved in other people's personal dramas on this board. I have enough going on in my own life.

And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."
#75

re: was i being unreasonable?

No one suggested that you were or should be involved in the problem.

This wasn't a matter of disagreement with a contrary opinion; as someone who has dealt with these kinds of experiences entirely too often, I was legitimately offended by something he posted, insinuating that Abba's cousin was right to be upset about a minor inconvenience in that "well, wouldn't you be, too?" kind of way. It would be petty to get that upset about a difference of opinion, but I found his comment and flippancy about something that is serious and places limitations upon my entire daily life incredibly offensive and insensitive to an issue that runs far deeper than an opinion. Read the first page if you want to know where I'm coming from.
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Updated On: 5/18/07 at 01:47 AM

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