3 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
3 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
#13 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 3:49pmI know they will decide whether American Idiot will be eligible for BEST SCORE or not, but what else will they be deciding? Does anyone know?
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theatreguy
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/31/03
#23 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 3:53pm
They'll also be deciding category placement (featured or lead) for some/all of the following:
John Gallagher, Jr. in American Idiot
Linda Lavin & Sarah Paulson in Collected Stories
Norbert Leo Butz in Enron
Viola Davis in Fences
Anthony LaPaglia & Tony Shalhoub in Lend Me a Tenor
Eddie Radmayne in Red
Barbara Cook, Vanessa Williams & Tom Wopat in Sondheim on Sondheim
Updated On: 4/27/10 at 03:53 PM
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#23 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 3:55pmThey will also be deciding whether to let Carol Channing appear with a rapper again or not.
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Wayman_Wong
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#33 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 4:00pm
That assumes that 'American Idiot' will be submitting for 'Best Original Score Written for the Theatre.' 
I'm guessing a couple of actors could be bumped up or down due to billing, most notably Viola Davis in 'Fences.' She's below the title, but with the love letters, er, rave reviews she got today, it might be wise for her to go for Leading Actress. (Also, it's not the most competitive category; many of the contenders probably will be from shows that have closed.)
Mary Alice, who originated the role in the 1987 production of 'Fences,' won for Featured Actress in a Play. If Davis goes for Leading Actress, that might improve Jan Maxwell or Scarlett Johansson's chances for Featured Actress this season.
To add to TheatreGuy: I fully expect them to bump John Gallagher up to Leading Actor for 'American Idiot,' and similarly, Norbert Leo Butz for Leading Actor in 'Enron.' Trickier is 'Lend Me a Tenor.' Should Tony Shalhoub and Anthony LaPaglia, both above the title, go for Featured Actor instead? Should Vanessa Williams be bumped down to Featured Actress, so she doesn't compete against Barbara Cook for a Leading slot?
Can't wait to see how all of these play out ... the drama!
Updated On: 4/27/10 at 04:00 PM
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#43 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 4:06pmwhat about Come Fly Away? is everyone in that show Leading or Featured or a mix? i think its being considered for best book too.
#53 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 4:07pmWhat day are the noms announced? (I poked around and couldn't find it; even the Tony site just says "in May.")
Wayman_Wong
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#63 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 4:10pmLea Michele and Jeff Daniels will make the Tony announcements on Tues., May 4, at 8:30 a.m. at the Library for Performing Arts.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#73 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 4:13pmWhy do they always do the nominations so early in the morning? Theater people don't get out of bed until noon.
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#83 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 4:17pmBecause they get some coverage on CBS' morning show ...
#93 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 5:15pm
I'm expecting:
-American Idiot will be allowed to submit for Best Original Score (which is totally wrong IMO, but that's what I think will happen)
-John Gallagher Jr, Linda Lavin, and Norbert will get bumped up
-Anthony LaPaglia and Eddie Redmayne will move to Featured (I think Tony Shalhoub will stay in Leading with Justin Bartha)
-Viola Davis will stay in Featured
-everyone else is staying put
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theatreguy
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#103 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 9:37pmI'll be interested to see what happens with Sarah Paulson. I can't see her winning in either category but I think she has a much better chance being nominated as a lead, if only because there's so little competition there this year. Plus, her role is the same size as Linda Lavin's.
Wayman_Wong
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#113 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/27/10 at 10:41pmI imagine Sarah Paulson will be in Featured. To me, Linda Lavin is clearly Leading because she has the mentor role and, let's face it, she's better-known. The same thing will probably happen with Alfred Molina and Eddie Redmayne in 'Red.' As the older mentor and better-known actor, Molina will be considered Leading, and the younger, lesser-known Redmayne is Featured (and he won the Olivier for Best Actor in a Supporting Role).
#123 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/28/10 at 4:42amI really love American Idiot, but I just don't see them putting it through for original score. However, they might do it just to spite Memphis and Addams Family.
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Wayman_Wong
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#133 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/28/10 at 10:33am
I'm not sure why you would think the Tonys would do anything to spite either 'Memphis' and 'Addams Family,' which both have played by the rules: supplied a new score written for theater.
Either the Tonys will decide the music to 'American Idiot' doesn't meet the criteria of their rules or, for whatever reason, will determine that it somehow does. And again that assumes that 'American Idiot' is making the submission.
#143 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/28/10 at 11:18am
I think what clumsydude meant by "spite" was that the committee might allow Idiot to be nominated for score in order to send a message that they were not happy that the only two original scores this season were such mediocrities, rather than really the best that the theatre world could offer.
I would be disappointed if the committee nominates Idiot for score - it would open the door for jukebox musicals to campaign to be nominated in the future. The category really should be for theatrical scores, written first and foremost for the theatre (in my opinion). Pop albums already have their own Grammy award. Granted, the Grammy's have some sort of theatre/movie category, but no one cares about it.
#153 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/28/10 at 6:29pm
I think what clumsydude meant by "spite" was that the committee might allow Idiot to be nominated for score in order to send a message that they were not happy that the only two original scores this season were such mediocrities, rather than really the best that the theatre world could offer.
That's exactly what I meant by being "spited" by the Tony committee.
I feel like they would do it just to show how unhappy they are with the two current offerings. However, I don't think they will allow American Idiot to be nominated, so I don't think it will really happen.
But, this is the Tonys. Anything can happen.
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Updated On: 4/28/10 at 06:29 PM
Wayman_Wong
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#163 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/28/10 at 6:49pm
But you're assuming that the Tony nominators are 'unhappy.' Who's to say that either score doesn't have its share of champions on the committee? Needless to say, if they kill the Best Score category this season, clearly they're 'unhappy,' but since that's only happened once in 63 years, it's not something they do lightly.
Cara Joy David, a theater journalist writing for the Huffington Post, thinks there will be a category, and it'll include 'Addams Family,' 'Memphis,' 'Fences' and possibly 'Enron.'
But to repeat what you said: Anything can happen.
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Updated On: 4/28/10 at 06:49 PM
#173 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/28/10 at 11:45pmGiven that some feel that there aren't enough musicals with original scores coming to Broadway, I can't imagine the Tonys folk shutting down the category. There were plenty of plays with original scores this year, so they can have 3 or 4 nominees to round out the category.
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#183 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/29/10 at 10:16amIf THE WHO'S TOMMY can be nominated and go on to win (or at least tie) I don't see why AMERICAN IDIOT shouldn't be eligible. Both were concept rock albums that became Broadway musicals. I wouldn't have even thought it would be a question due to precedence.
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#193 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/29/10 at 10:24am
The changed the rule after TOMMY won. The score has to be at least 50% new, original music.
I don't understand why people keep insisting that American Idiot will be eligible. It won't be.
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#203 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/29/10 at 10:27amBecause NOTHING the Tonys do is consistent.
#213 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/29/10 at 10:53am
I don't care what they do in this dry year, but I do think that nominating incidental music as a score is scraping the bottom of the barrel: 1) No one goes to a play to listen to the incidental music, and 2) Incidental music rarely gets a recording, so only those who saw the play will ever hear it.
I felt that the Twelfth Night nomination was silly. I haven't seen Enron yet, and hear that it uses more than just incidental stuff. But will it be recorded?
I just seems to me that the best score should be a) something as important as the text of the piece, and b) something that can be heard by audiences not in New York who don't get to see the piece live.
#223 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/29/10 at 11:17am
I just seems to me that the best score should be a) something as important as the text of the piece, and b) something that can be heard by audiences not in New York who don't get to see the piece live.
Funny, I always thought Best Score should be the Best Score, regardless whether it was written for a musical or a play or whomever the audience may be. Funny how Best Musical, Best Play and Best Revival nominees are not always shows that tour (especially in the case of plays), so I don't know why there should be an even tighter stipulation on scores. Why not honor the individual who actually wrote the best original music for a Broadway production that season? Unless the Tonys create two categories for Best Score (Play and Musical), then all original scores should be considered. Otherwise, they need to retitle the award.
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#233 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/29/10 at 11:27am
I see your point; however, pre-recorded unreleased unpublished background music to a play is just an entirely different thing from the live published commercially available score to a musical show.
But I suppose we can lower our standards in other categories as well - why not Best Costume Design awarded for some clothes briefly glimpsed in a closet on stage? Best Actor going to an audience member who played a lively game of charades in the lobby one night? Best Orchestrations to an a capella song?
#243 days until the last Tony Administration Meeting
Posted: 4/29/10 at 11:51amI'm actually strongly against the idea that the best score nominees/winner should be from recorded scores. Doesn't that put pressure on the smaller shows that don't have the budget to crank out recordings as quickly the larger ones? It seems like it would only add to the "political machine" of the Tonys that so many of us complain about. Best score should be the best score, recorded or not.
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