A Loud BOO to evil Jeremy Irons- Page 2
A Loud BOO to evil Jeremy Irons
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#25screaming monkies.
Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:34pmI don't think the chicken analogy is a fair one. It's the fox's nature to be a predator- he needs to eat. People, on the other hand, have more of a choice about how they do things, and they have consciences that should keep them from being cruel in the ways they get their food.
#26screaming monkies.
Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:36pmAnd do they even EAT the fox, or just hang it on the wall?
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#27screaming monkies.
Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:37pmI don't think they eat it. It's a frivolous exercise. There's a reason it was pretty much limited to the aristocracy. Who else can afford to invest horses, trained dogs, and hours of time for a "hunt" that produces nothing?
MaTakeALookAtMe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
#28screaming monkies.
Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:39pmGuys, the chicken analogy was merely a little joke. Just as the original post was unreasonable, I responded with an equally unreasonable statement.
#29screaming monkies.
Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:40pmThe original post isn't unreasonable. A tad dramatic, but not unreasonable and illogical.
marlomanners
Featured Actor Joined: 7/13/04
#30screaming monkies.
Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:48pmHunting is stupid and should be banned everywhere. Period. What purpose does it serve anyway?
MaTakeALookAtMe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
#31screaming monkies.
Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:48pm
Actually, I think that stating that Irons views on foxhunting eclipses his contributions to the entertainment world is both overly dramatic and unreasonable.
I find fox hunting to be despicable, but it has very little to do with Jeremy Irons' talent or the honor and recognition he deserves.
Yorkie1276
Stand-by Joined: 3/12/05
#34My Take
Posted: 3/17/05 at 9:32pm
I consider myself fairly knowlegable on animal rights. Its not the issue I know the most about, but I think its important. I'm against wearing fur, and I hate the concept of animals being killed for no reason, particuarly so that they can be put on a wall as trophys.
You would be just as likely to hear me talking to someone about the current situation in Darfur, and the UN's refusal to call it genocide. I don't think animal rights activists will limit them selves to protecting "cute animals" or even only have views on helping animals.
amasis
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/7/04
#35My Take
Posted: 3/17/05 at 9:43pm
I am no fan of hunting, but I always marvel at the zeal and foot-stomping outrage of animal rights activists in a world that turns its face, daily, on the death of literally thousands of people in Africa every day from hunger, malnutrition, AIDS, and internecine warfare.
I think the original post is overly dramatic, certainly. However, your message seems to say that by defending animal rights, these people are by default making light of human sufferings. I'm glad that there are people out there who support different causes -- and that's really the only way problems can get resolved. While some people should concentrate on helping with the recent tsunami tragedy, or on addressing human rights issues, some others can work on the solution to the AIDS problem, helping Haiti flood victims, etc., including the protection of animals and the environment.
#36My Take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 2:22am
right on amasis! lol even though this subject is getting way more than its fair share of replies, i have to say to you MaTakeALookAtMe that i definately chuckled at those chickens! lol
stop hating on jeremy! his acting which is a whole other issue is not related to foxhunting
#37my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 7:52ammmmmm, fox burgers!
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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blueraven1968
Swing Joined: 3/17/05
#38my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 8:50am
In our world where actors and actresses are worshipped more than doctors, fireman, policeman and that women down the road who gave up her career to take care of her ailing child – some of us just hope that they could use their celebrity for good. When they don’t, it is disappointing – not earth shattering, just disappointing. Of course, on the flip side, I don’t expect actors to serve any purpose outside their craft – it’s society that put them on this pedestal of expectation and I think even they agree, it’s not a fun pedestal to be on. Still, some of us with our beliefs (like your beliefs in religion, politics, etc) choose to take action and not support their career. No big deal. No skin off your back.
And what is this about calling the original post unreasonable and over-dramatic? Have you seen yourselves chatting elsewhere on this board? What’s the difference with Tony’s passion about Jeremy and those who go to religiously battle over who is the best Elphaba? At least Tony had substance and sense of reality to his/her statement - it can be refreshing every now and then to hear views of this community outside of Broadway.
MaTakeALookAtMe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
amasis
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/7/04
#40my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 10:10am
And what is this about calling the original post unreasonable and over-dramatic? Have you seen yourselves chatting elsewhere on this board?
I agree with the first part of your post. Yes, it is inspiring when celebrities use their status for a good cause. And I also agree that it is society that puts them on this pedestal with the expectation that they should be great 'role-models' etc.
However. Some of us who have called the original post over-dramatic do not also go into 'religious battles' about whatever. Here's the over-dramatic part on the original post:
I think someone should put this loser in a cage, put him in a fox suit and let him "save" the barbarically sick "sport" of foxhunting by allowing himself to be the prey.
What a piece of human garbage this excuse for a man is.
No one is going to take the fight for animal protection seriously with that kind of talk.
#41my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 10:22amwait, so they're going to put indiana and kirsty in a cage to fight to the death and the winner gets a full length fox fur coat?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
amasis
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/7/04
#43my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 10:33am
roosters? y'mean c*cks?
which one's in the turtleneck and which is in the helmet?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
MaTakeALookAtMe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
#45my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:24pm
thanks Queenmuppet, blueraven, Munkustrap, Marlomanners and the other lovely folks who understand how devastating this subject can be to some of us.....As for MAME,,,,,,,,,,,,what starts the MAME production number and all the accolades given her in the song stem from the fact that she wound up "winning the fox hunt" by affectionately calling to the fox and "capturing" him alive as though the fox was a puppy. That leads into the song MAME.
MrMidwest
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/8/05
#46my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:34pm
I admire the people here who stand for something (whatever side they may be on). I'm personally happy to hear about the ban.
Speaking of foxes...
#47my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:38pm
thanks Mr. Midwest,,,your words are appreciated.
To the poster who mentioned they thought this thread was inappropriate for this board??????? Perhaps you are right. Then again, Mr. Irons won a Tony award for Best Actor in 1984 for his performance in THE REAL THING. I think that makes him "open game" (how could I resist using that term) for discussion on a Broadway message board.
robbiej
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#49my take
Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:46pmrobbiej, you are likely correct as you most often are. :) I apologize for not starting this thread on the off topic message board........If this thread has helped anybody to think of helping any living creature in distress anywhere, I am very, very thankful. People all over the world need help as do other living creatures. It is indeed extraordinary the differences a singular person can make in the life of a person in distress, or any living creature in peril.
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