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#26

screaming monkies.

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:34pm

I don't think the chicken analogy is a fair one. It's the fox's nature to be a predator- he needs to eat. People, on the other hand, have more of a choice about how they do things, and they have consciences that should keep them from being cruel in the ways they get their food.

#27

screaming monkies.

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:36pm

And do they even EAT the fox, or just hang it on the wall?

"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

#28

screaming monkies.

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:37pm

I don't think they eat it. It's a frivolous exercise. There's a reason it was pretty much limited to the aristocracy. Who else can afford to invest horses, trained dogs, and hours of time for a "hunt" that produces nothing?

#29

screaming monkies.

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:39pm

Guys, the chicken analogy was merely a little joke. Just as the original post was unreasonable, I responded with an equally unreasonable statement.

#30

screaming monkies.

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:40pm

The original post isn't unreasonable. A tad dramatic, but not unreasonable and illogical.

"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

#31

screaming monkies.

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:48pm

Hunting is stupid and should be banned everywhere. Period. What purpose does it serve anyway?

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#32

screaming monkies.

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:48pm

Actually, I think that stating that Irons views on foxhunting eclipses his contributions to the entertainment world is both overly dramatic and unreasonable.

I find fox hunting to be despicable, but it has very little to do with Jeremy Irons' talent or the honor and recognition he deserves.

#33

My Take

Posted: 3/17/05 at 7:50pm

I'm a vegetarian who doesn't believe in hunting of any kind, but I respect Jeremy Irons' right to hunt if he wishes to.

#34

My Take

Posted: 3/17/05 at 8:55pm

exactly Auggie.....well said

It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956

#35

My Take

Posted: 3/17/05 at 9:32pm

I consider myself fairly knowlegable on animal rights. Its not the issue I know the most about, but I think its important. I'm against wearing fur, and I hate the concept of animals being killed for no reason, particuarly so that they can be put on a wall as trophys.

You would be just as likely to hear me talking to someone about the current situation in Darfur, and the UN's refusal to call it genocide. I don't think animal rights activists will limit them selves to protecting "cute animals" or even only have views on helping animals.

#36

My Take

Posted: 3/17/05 at 9:43pm

I am no fan of hunting, but I always marvel at the zeal and foot-stomping outrage of animal rights activists in a world that turns its face, daily, on the death of literally thousands of people in Africa every day from hunger, malnutrition, AIDS, and internecine warfare.

I think the original post is overly dramatic, certainly. However, your message seems to say that by defending animal rights, these people are by default making light of human sufferings. I'm glad that there are people out there who support different causes -- and that's really the only way problems can get resolved. While some people should concentrate on helping with the recent tsunami tragedy, or on addressing human rights issues, some others can work on the solution to the AIDS problem, helping Haiti flood victims, etc., including the protection of animals and the environment.

#37

My Take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 2:22am

right on amasis! lol even though this subject is getting way more than its fair share of replies, i have to say to you MaTakeALookAtMe that i definately chuckled at those chickens! lol

stop hating on jeremy! his acting which is a whole other issue is not related to foxhunting

#38

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 7:52am

mmmmm, fox burgers!

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#39

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 8:50am

In our world where actors and actresses are worshipped more than doctors, fireman, policeman and that women down the road who gave up her career to take care of her ailing child – some of us just hope that they could use their celebrity for good. When they don’t, it is disappointing – not earth shattering, just disappointing. Of course, on the flip side, I don’t expect actors to serve any purpose outside their craft – it’s society that put them on this pedestal of expectation and I think even they agree, it’s not a fun pedestal to be on. Still, some of us with our beliefs (like your beliefs in religion, politics, etc) choose to take action and not support their career. No big deal. No skin off your back.

And what is this about calling the original post unreasonable and over-dramatic? Have you seen yourselves chatting elsewhere on this board? What’s the difference with Tony’s passion about Jeremy and those who go to religiously battle over who is the best Elphaba? At least Tony had substance and sense of reality to his/her statement - it can be refreshing every now and then to hear views of this community outside of Broadway.

#40

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 9:01am

Thank you for bringing Wicked into this discussion, cause I recently heard that both Idina and Kristin (who hails from Oklahoma, one of the last states to ban****fighting), were selling fighting roosters and fox scent on ebay.

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#41

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 10:10am

And what is this about calling the original post unreasonable and over-dramatic? Have you seen yourselves chatting elsewhere on this board?

I agree with the first part of your post. Yes, it is inspiring when celebrities use their status for a good cause. And I also agree that it is society that puts them on this pedestal with the expectation that they should be great 'role-models' etc.

However. Some of us who have called the original post over-dramatic do not also go into 'religious battles' about whatever. Here's the over-dramatic part on the original post:
I think someone should put this loser in a cage, put him in a fox suit and let him "save" the barbarically sick "sport" of foxhunting by allowing himself to be the prey.
What a piece of human garbage this excuse for a man is.

No one is going to take the fight for animal protection seriously with that kind of talk.

#42

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 10:22am

wait, so they're going to put indiana and kirsty in a cage to fight to the death and the winner gets a full length fox fur coat?

#43

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 10:28am

You forgot the part where they're going to be dressed as roosters, papa.

Updated On: 3/18/05 at 10:28 AM

#44

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 10:33am

roosters? y'mean c*cks?

which one's in the turtleneck and which is in the helmet?

Updated On: 3/18/05 at 10:33 AM

#45

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 12:08pm

With the last name Menzel, I'm bettin Idina's wearing a helmet.

#46

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:24pm

thanks Queenmuppet, blueraven, Munkustrap, Marlomanners and the other lovely folks who understand how devastating this subject can be to some of us.....As for MAME,,,,,,,,,,,,what starts the MAME production number and all the accolades given her in the song stem from the fact that she wound up "winning the fox hunt" by affectionately calling to the fox and "capturing" him alive as though the fox was a puppy. That leads into the song MAME.

"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."

Updated On: 3/18/05 at 04:24 PM

#47

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:34pm

I admire the people here who stand for something (whatever side they may be on). I'm personally happy to hear about the ban.

Speaking of foxes...

"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter

#48

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:38pm

thanks Mr. Midwest,,,your words are appreciated.

To the poster who mentioned they thought this thread was inappropriate for this board??????? Perhaps you are right. Then again, Mr. Irons won a Tony award for Best Actor in 1984 for his performance in THE REAL THING. I think that makes him "open game" (how could I resist using that term) for discussion on a Broadway message board.

"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."

#49

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:41pm

Mr. Irons' opinion on fox hunting is a perfectly valid topic...FOR THE OFF-TOPIC BOARD!

Sorry...but come ON!

"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

#50

my take

Posted: 3/18/05 at 4:46pm

robbiej, you are likely correct as you most often are. :) I apologize for not starting this thread on the off topic message board........If this thread has helped anybody to think of helping any living creature in distress anywhere, I am very, very thankful. People all over the world need help as do other living creatures. It is indeed extraordinary the differences a singular person can make in the life of a person in distress, or any living creature in peril.

"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."

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