An Open Letter To All Posters on This Board - Page 3

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 11:51am

You should definitely delete this part of your post immediately, broadway guy, or I will pull out all the threads in which you harassed and bullied and trolled hundreds of people only two years ago (maybe less). 

 You are the epitome of delusional. While the OP is well-intentioned, the above is a great example of this thread falling on deaf ears since the hypocrites, who always claim to be the perfect saints, refuse to look at themselves in the mirror first.

Please get off your high horse, bilbo/broadway guy 

Could you for once not make every thread about you attacking someone? I will not be deleting anything. Get over yourself. 

Updated On: 5/5/15 at 11:51 AM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 11:54am

Bilbo/broadway guy - You've spent collectively 2 years or more with different screen names turning every thread into your own little pre-teen playground, attacking EVERYONE here. Of all the posters on this board, you are the LAST - THE VERY VERY LAST ONE to ever suggest someone not attack someone. 

 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 11:54am

Thanks, newintown, for a well stated sentiment. Just to add one point: discussing failure is essential in any business and especially in a creative one. That doesn't mean people working on a show need to be involved in a conversation about its shortcomings-they have a job to do and should not allow themselves to be distracted from it-but the fact is there is no better or more pertinent time for the rest of the universe to discuss a show's shortcoming that in the moment.  

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 11:57am

Watch your back, Bilbo.

I agree with you but you have just waved a red flag in front of a bull. I have the poster you mentioned blocked so I no longer care what he/she says.

I cannot tell you how many people have been hounded off the board & will never return. The contributions they would have made to discussions will never be heard. The person in question, like others, have succeeded in stifling all dissent . Their way or the highway.

Well said but, as I said above watch it as you are now # 1 target for this persons wrath.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:01pm

Dildo didn't mention any poster by name, so how do you know who he's referencing, Roxy? 

[Brick]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:02pm

Thank you for this beautiful reminder of the personal dignity each person brings to their work on Broadway, and the hundreds behind each show.

Most of the nasty people on this board have done some high school, college or community theatre and feel it elevates them to "industry" status, since they "know what's it's like." They don't. They do not make a living in the theatre. True professionals can measure their criticism and try to imagine what the creatives aimed for on a show, perhaps where they fell short, and wish the production a long run all of the same, since true professionals know they will soon wish for the same thing.

Thank you, again.

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:03pm

I have no reason to watch my back. They are all talk and have no real power other than childish insults. 

Well said but, as I said above watch it as you are now # 1 target for this persons wrath.

See above. 

[Patti LuPone FANatic]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:06pm

Now that we have the ignore feature, maybe less people will think of quitting this board.  I've put the ignore feature to good use....fairly recently.   Rather than respond to the attacker (which is what they want), I just make them disappear (so to speak).  I would like to wish the OP the best of luck in his/her future theatrical plans. 

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:08pm

I love the ignore feature & continually add to it. It is a great feature.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:09pm

I am sorry. from broadway guy
on 6/23/13 @ 12:51:13 PM

I am sorry for all the harm I have caused you and this board and I am willing to change. Some of my comments have been out of line and I don't blame you for thinking I am a troll. I have actually been apologizing to many posters on here today and I really would like to repent for my shenanigans. I hope we can be civil from now on and I hope you accept this apology. If you don't than I will understand. Have a good day.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:09pm

To the OP:
Loving and supporting theater and being critical/making negative comments are not mutually exclusive.

I am also a member of the theater community, and have many friends in the business. I'm sorry that you & your team are losing your jobs this week. This business sucks, I know. I really am sorry.

However, that does not exclude the fact that I did not like Doctor Zhivago. Not only am I free to comment on the show and make criticism of it, I think doing so is important to the art form. I think new musicals are awesome and important, but there was a lot I didn't like about your show. There is nothing wrong with that.

I don't think anyone is rooting for you or your show to fail. If they are, they're terrible people. But trust me, that's the minority.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:09pm

"I love the ignore feature & continually add to it. It is a great feature."

 

EL OH MOTHERF**KING EL

Updated On: 5/5/15 at 12:09 PM

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:11pm

Exactly, Patti Lupone Fanatic. I put Jordan on ignore months ago. I'm sure whatever he is saying is hysterical but his shtick got old months ago. Rob and I have talked and he had no problem deleting Jordan's comments that were uncalled for. I guess I just don't really have the need to engage with Jordan anymore now that the ignore function is available. It's his problem now, not mine.

Updated On: 5/5/15 at 12:11 PM

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:13pm

Seems your post  has brought a whole bunch of them out of the woodwork  

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:15pm

Now, how do you know know PLF was talking about me? I mean, you have no idea I'm even posting in this thread since I'm "blocked", right? I mean, you and Roxy both have me blocked....right? 

I'm sorry that Bilbo/broadway guy is now a victim. A thad wittle boy who'th jutht mithunderthtood and only wanth a lolly and to be friendth with everyone now. 

Well F V C K that. You're a horrible little human being, the worst kind of troll - worse than Sue. Bilbo is the absolute worst thing that's ever happened to this site and him coming back hell bent on rebranding himself means nothing. But of course he can't see this so the only way he can reference it is by saying that someone (or so many people as is always the case with him) will PM him with it so that way he'll know what's being said. 

Because he blocked me.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:17pm

And Roxy has me blocked so the only way he'll know that I posted was to read it and then reference how I'm blocked and then go into what I said since I'm blocked and he didn't see it.

[kristinj1]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:19pm

I assume everyone here recognizes that there's a difference between harsh, snarky criticism and constructive criticism (and hopefully also grasps that constructive criticism requires far more intelligent thought and generally commands more respect) or objective business analysis.

The OP clearly embraces the fact that we all have opinions, so suggesting their intent was to discourage criticism is disingenuous.  Their intent was to request that folks recognize that real humans are the targets of those mean-sprited remarks, and urging people to bring some loving kindess even when you don't enjoy a show or it's failing at the box office.

Really how hard is that?

Updated On: 5/5/15 at 12:19 PM

[bwaybby]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:24pm

How do you block someone? Lets compile a list of unsupportive, unhelpful bullies to block...and GO:

[tazber]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:25pm

Asking thousands (tens of thousands? more?) to watch their manners is quixotic at best, delusional at worst.

It's much easier for one person to recognize this site for what it is and not to take anonymous comments personally.

I doubt the OP will even be back.

[jimmycurry01]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:46pm

Try to remember that people are not actively attacking your job. People are attacking a work of art. We have all seen really bad shows, and chances are we have all been involved some really bad shows. People will talk about their experiences, they will talk about the good and the bad. Sometimes there is little good to talk about, and that is also part of the business. Don't take any criticism personally, just continue to be part of the artistic process. Don't worry if you are part of a hit or a massive stinker, because even the biggest stars end up in shows that should never have made it as far as the have, and those stars keep on working. 

[LarryD2]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:53pm

^ And I would even take umbrage with the use of the word "attack." Legitimate criticism is not an attack. 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 12:57pm

But remember that anything said nowadays that could be taken as even slightly offensive to someone, for any reason at all, is now classified as "bullying". 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 1:06pm

I would think it would be very hard not to take it personally.  I appreciate your letter Building, and I wish you luck in the future.  I saw the show, and appreciated all the effort everyone put into it.  

Updated On: 5/5/15 at 01:06 PM

[brdwydreamer]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 1:07pm

Great post and I agree that there are lots and lots and lots of folks that put their heart and soul into a production.

However, I believe the solution here is not to look to others and say 'don't say this don't say that.' People will say what they want. That's life. The solution here is simply to look to ourselves, and not take anything personally. Period. Not just with this board. But with life in general. If you don't take opinions and what is said personally, it will not affect you in any.way.

So let others bully if they want to bully. Let others be negative if they want to be negative. At the end of the day, "the energy you put out into the universe will multiply when it returns to you."

Continue putting your heart and soul into your work and leave it at that. Do not take anything personally. Many people will lightly say they don't, but that's questionable. We take everything personally as human beings. It's a natural reaction. It's all about us, or at least we want it to be. But in reality, what others say about you or your show is none of your business. Your business is to do the best you can and everything else is out of your control.

 

Again, I can't say this enough. Don't. take. anything. personally.

 

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 5/5/15 at 1:11pm

Wishing a show to close is nothing but vanity on the part of the poster.  Even if I despise a production I've seen, I don't wish it to close because it makes no logical sense that anyone, much less a majority, would share my exact opinion.  If there are people who want to see it, what possible reason would I have for preventing them from doing so?  Generally, when someone posts a nasty celebratory remark about a show's closing or a desire for a show to close, I assume they are either 1) immature 2) ignorant 3) a troll or 4) any combination of the above and disregard their comments.  Free speech pretty much allows people to post what they wish, for better or worse, so I don't advocate censoring the thoughts or posts of opinions.  But I do determine the credibility of the posters based on how they choose to express themselves.  Regardless how anyone felt about Zhivago, I still wanted to see it.  Now I won't have that opportunity.  Why should that cause the delight of anyone else when it has nothing to do with them?