BEST MUSICAL RACE 2014- Page 3

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 3/12/14 at 9:40pm

"None of which were Best Musical, though."

Crybaby was nominated for Best Musical.

"why do I bother, I have no idea what's going on honestly"

Yeah, since you haven't seen any of them, I think it would be weird to predict the nominees.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 3/12/14 at 11:19pm

My five:

Beautiful
After Midnight
Gentleman's Guide
Madison County
Aladdin(5th spot)

[jkstheatrescene]

Posted: 3/13/14 at 11:46am

Regarding the new Tony rule: I think it would be very telling if the nominating committee decided to only choose four after all is said and done. Just because there is a possibility of doesn't mean there should be. After reading this thread and others in a similar vein, it seems a lot of folks don't think highly enough of four of them (so far) let alone five.

[WhizzerMarvin]

Posted: 3/13/14 at 12:35pm

I would be surprised if they only choose four nominees. I think there are 7 musicals "worthy" of a nomination by the standards set most seasons, with those being After Midnight, Bridges, Bullets, Beautiful, Rocky, If/Then and Gentleman's Guide. That cuts 5 possible nominees out of hand and you still have to drop 2 more of the "worthy" set to make 5.

I think we would see a different set of nominees if the nomination process was similar to that of the Oscars, but since this is nomination by committee I think the smaller shows have a better chance.

[CoreyRyan3]

Posted: 3/13/14 at 12:56pm

I think the nomination list will be:
Beautiful
Bridges
If/Then
Rocky
Gentleman's Guide

I think if a small musical is going to slip in, it's going to be Gentleman's Guide.

[Freeman5]

Posted: 3/13/14 at 9:00pm

I think there will be 5 finalists:

After Midnight
Beautiful
Bullets Over Broadway
A Gentleman's Guide To Love and Murder
If/Then

[BobNC]

Posted: 3/13/14 at 10:29pm

Critics might have been mixed, but, audiences LOVE "Beautiful." It definitely will get nominated. The best word of mouth of any show in years. Celebs are frothing at the mouth over it.

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 12:39am

My top 5 (in this order)
1. Bullets Over Broadway
2. If/Then
3. Rocky
4. The Bridges of Madison County
5. Beautiful

Updated On: 3/14/14 at 12:39 AM

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 12:44am

After the massacre tonight, scratch Rocky.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:16pm

^ Agreed.

[Up In One]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:22pm

Still don't get what papers you guys were reading, did you read all the reviews? Don't let The Times lend more credence to those who did not like the show. If that were the case than neither Kinky Boots or Pippin would have made it to the Tonys last year.

[dreaming]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:25pm

The overall tone of the reviews for Pippin and Kinky Boots was way more enthusiastic than those Rocky received.

That said, in a season of Broadway mediocrities, I'm not counting anything out.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:27pm

^^ Not just the Times.
NYMag
http://www.vulture.com/2014/03/theater-review-rocky.html
Associated Press, which is widely reprinted. http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Review-Rocky-predictable-until-it-gets-puzzling-5316080.php
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/theater_dance/theater-review-rocky-a-musical-thrilla-thats-vanilla/2014/03/13/84c35878-aaf2-11e3-b8ca-197ef3568958_story.html

[VotePeron]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:43pm

I think If/Then has a really strong chance. Seeing BULLETS tonight, so i'll report back!

[After Eight]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:46pm

I will be dipleased indeed if either If/Then or Madison County gets nominated. Both are two bores with ugly, boring music, especially the latter.

Oh, wait, isn't that exactly what will assure them both nominations?

[tazber]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:54pm

^^^^

No it is not.

[WhizzerMarvin]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:59pm

Oh come off it, After Eight. You better watch out or you're going to become a parody of yourself, if you haven't already.

I hope If/Then and Bridges get nominated for both musical and score with them splitting the prizes respectively.

[NewSynchopation]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 3:10pm

I really think IF/THEN should win best score. Tom Kitt really can write fantastic music. In fact, I think Bring it On also deserved a nomination for best score.

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 3:16pm

These season seems especially divisive. There doesn't appear to be anything close to a consensus. Awards season should be interesting.

[WhizzerMarvin]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 3:23pm

Well this season isn't going to be a Matilda vs. Kinky Boots or Once vs. Newsies situation. This has been a much stronger season for new musicals and therefore the love will generally be spread around and people will be divided into more than two camps for best musical.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 4:22pm

I much prefer these types of seasons. Much more exciting.

[tazber]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 5:10pm

No doubt.

And it's going to be insanely competitive in the straight play acting categories.

[mikem]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 5:42pm

Right now, if there were only 4 nominees, I think they would be

After Midnight
Gentlemen's Guide (the two of them have gotten the best reviews so far and have stayed open)
If/Then
Bullets

So who's the fifth nominee? A convincing case could be made for any of the remaining contenders (Aladdin, Beautiful, Bridges, and Rocky), with Rocky being the least likely at this point. Aladdin could be dismissed as fluff, but it might end up getting better reviews than any of the others. Beautiful got very mixed reviews and might be hurt that it's the only jukebox musical of the final choices (and awkward song placement), but it's selling, so it's striking a chord with audiences. Bridges has the pedigree (and slightly better reviews than Beautiful, I think) and could well win Best Score and some people love it. Rocky is an underdog once more, but it is a technical achievement that could only be done on Broadway.

Sales and reviews over the next month will help clarify things.

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 7:24pm

My top vote for best musical would have to go to Bullets Over Broadway with If/Then taking home book and score. Actress is a tough one. If you put a gun to my head and made me choose between Kelli O'Hara and Idina Menzel, I wouldn't be able to choose. As impressive as Rocky's scenic design was, I think Bullets Over Broadway will be taking the Tony for that as well.

[TheatreKid3]

Posted: 3/14/14 at 8:33pm

My 5, with alternatives for certain slots:

-BULLETS OVER BROADWAY/AFTER MIDNIGHT
-IF/THEN
-BEAUTIFUL: THE CAROLE KING MUSICAL
-THE BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY/GENTLEMAN'S GUIDE
-ALADDIN

BULLETS' reviews are going to make a big difference.

Updated On: 3/14/14 at 08:33 PM