"Best Musical" 2007 TONY Contenders — Page 8

Sweeney Todd isn't, and never will be a big hit. The last revival did recoup, yes, but the production was very inexpensive.

And no, critics don't pay to see the show 24/7. But for most shows, people rely on critical reaction to decide whether or not to see a show. And most shows that get nominated for Best Musical normally have very good reviews, unless it is a weak year, which this year is not.

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Sweeney Todd is an artistic sucess. It is not an audience hit, and it never will be. And the musical going down in history doesn't change that.

As for shows like BATB and Wicked, they run on name recognition. People recognize the Disney name, and they go see it because Disney is familiar. Wicked is based off the Wizard of OZ, and people see it because they know the Wizard of Oz.

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Just because a show has the Disney name doesn't mean it is going to get nominated. Tarzan wan't nominated. Aida wasn't nominated.

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"MARY POPPINS is recognized by its Disney name therefore it has the audience's attention and therefore it's bound to get a nomination"

Yeah, you did.

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Beauty got a nomination mostly because it was a weak year.

Its other nominees(beside Passion)

Cyrano: The Musical: 137 Performances, Closed before Tony time

A Grand Night For Singing: 52 Performances, Closed before Tony time

BATB got a nom. because there wasn't much else to nominate.

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and...." Beauty got a nomination mostly because it was a weak year.

Its other nominees(beside Passion)

Cyrano: The Musical: 137 Performances, Closed before Tony time

A Grand Night For Singing: 52 Performances, Closed before Tony time

BATB got a nom. because there wasn't much else to nominate. "
What about Wicked hmmm Wicked was mixed by critics and had a strong season, how do you explain that...You can't

The Vertcial Hour and The Little Dog Laughed are both plays (and TLDL got good reviews), and this season also has Grey Gardens, Spring Awakening, Company, etc. It is quite a strong season.

And Wicked's season wasn't too strong either. Its reviews were mixed positive, with a couple of generally good reviews mixed in, but no falt out pans. Beauty's reaction was more negative.


Edit: Weez, was that directed at me?

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Updated On: 2/18/07 at 05:46 AM

Edit: Weez, was that directed at me?

Now why would I aim that at you when your sparring partner is the mockable one here? :)

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"Edit: Weez, was that directed at me?"
Ooooo Lemme Try....Edit: Wow I just crack myself up by randomly popping into conversations and talking to myself aren't I funny? XD..Yup this is the most mature thing ever!

Updated On: 2/18/07 at 05:55 AM

Yankee you beat me! :)

Future Aladdin...you really have no idea about how this business works, do you?

This season is leaps and bounds the strongest one of the bast 5-6 years, for real. There are very strong shwos open and opening. Of course, there are some shows that will flop, no kidding.

Quit trying to defend every little thing you've said. I like Mary Poppins, but I find it unlikely that it will get a nomination because this is a very strong artistic season with musicals.

By the way, here's a list of the new musicals of the 2003/2004 Season:

Avenue Q
The Boy From Oz
Wicked
Taboo
Never Gonna Dance
Bombay Dreams
Caroline, or Change

4 of those flopped...most were considered critical and audience pans. The Boy from Oz's sole purpose of existence was for Hugh Jackman.

2006-2007:

Martin Short: Fame Becomes Me
Grey Gardens
Mary Poppins
The Times They are A Changin'
High Fidelity
Spring Awakening
Curtains
The Pirate Queen
Legally Blonde
Love Musik
Xanadu?

Most of these shows seem to be off on a good foot, albeit two or three have flopped, and possibly one other in the future. But there's likely 5 or 6 strong shows total out of 11...that's stronger than 2003-2004.

EDITED: Added more shows, thanks Smaxie!

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Updated On: 2/18/07 at 08:21 AM

This season will actually have 11 new musicals. ThankstoPhantom left out the closed Times They Are a Changin' and the upcoming Xanadu, which is apparently real.

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Hmmm... of that list of 11, I'd go with:

Grey Gardens
Spring Awakening
Curtains

For sure, with the fourth place as either The Pirate Queen (if it's drastically improved) or Love Musik (if it doesn't suck), and Mary Poppins a distant third for the fourth spot. If that makes sense. ^_^

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Grey Gardens
Spring Awakining
Mary Poppins
Curtains