CRY-BABY: I'm Still Crying - 3/24/08- Page 5

Posted: 3/16/08 at 9:37pm

i went to the first preview because:

1. i expected to love it

&

2. expecting to love it, i wanted to do everything i could to promote it

nowhere did i say that i did not like it or that it was a bad show.

i said the rude audience prevented me from making a fair assesment, & i will try again later.

BroadwayCryBaby6, obviously we dont sit at home, moaning; we are all patrons of the theater & when we love something, we do everything we can to support & promote it.

[BrianS]

Posted: 3/16/08 at 9:54pm

The "bitter theater queens" comments were made by friends of mine (which I stated) and which I said I did not really agree with (though there are a few on here where I feel that fits the bill). I never said, nor would I ever, that you don't have a right to hate a show. To imply that invalidated my point by making me seem unreasonable.

I was referring to two things:

1) Slamming a show that hard when it is a work in progress. This show may be missing the mark in places, but there are shows that display contempt for the intellect of their audiences and this isn't one of them. As such, to write comments that could kill a show before it finds its feet is bad for Broadway (the industry we all claim to love). No, I don't think that the majority of ticket buyers read these boards, but at the same time, this is an industry where buzz does have an impact. Even if it's only 4 people who are loud and constant with their condemnation, a show can unfairly seem unpopular (even when those 4 people fail to mention the standing ovation that I know they saw). How can you not give a show a little leeway until it is frozen and opens when you know that the development process is so important to this artform?

2) Taking pleasure in seeing people fail. You don't like the show, fine, say that. But we all know that there are people who beat a dead horse with negative comments over and over and over about shows we knew they didn't like from day one and don't even bother to hide their absolute glee about it. I wrote a critical review of "Young Frankenstein" when it came out, but I didn't spend the next 2 months tearing it apart. I'm not saying that no one backed up their points, but there were many more comments that seemed to make some very bold claims ("worst show in a long time") without explaining how or why.

All I'm saying is there is a difference in tone between hoping shows work (and acknowledging when they fall short) and hoping shows fail. It's the Schadenfreude that is so disturbing.

Updated On: 3/16/08 at 09:54 PM

[Not Barker, Todd.]

Posted: 3/16/08 at 10:04pm

Sorry to hear it's not doing so good, I LOVE the Demo.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 3/16/08 at 10:07pm

Regular posters on this board still don't understand that critics not liking a show do not make it a "flop", as many times as it's been explained. A flop is nothing more and nothing less and nothing other than a show that closes without recouping its costs.

[musicalmaster703]

Posted: 3/16/08 at 11:31pm

musicalmaster703 - You just asked what show to see instead of Cry-Baby. So how did you go to the same show as Norn (n69n)? He saw Cry-Baby.

No, i did see cry baby, i was just commenting in the front Ocastra where i was there were no rude people!

Posted: 3/16/08 at 11:37pm

i was orchestra row M.

[musicalmaster703]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 12:26am

really? Oh you meen the talkitive teenage girs! they were annoying especially when there were butts. They started screaming

[mels3192]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 1:08am

i am dumbfounded by the reactions on here.

the audience LOVED the show. on the way out people were RAVING about it. literally dancing in the aisles. this show is FUN!

haters, get over yourselves. the show isn't perfect yet but its better than a lot of the crap that tries to entertain and fails miserably. i truly had a great time watching cry-baby. DON'T BE DISCOURAGED FROM SEEING THIS SHOW!!!!

if you want an entertaining evening that will leave you laughing and wanting to dance, then see it!

it may not inspire you to be a better person or to re-examine your life in any way, but you will enjoy yourself and you'll leave the theatre in a great mood.

[BroadwayBaby6]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 1:31am

To the person who calls me BroadwayCryBaby...I will wear that name with pride without resorting to any name calling...

And here's a pic of me with Cry-Baby himself, James Snyder..so there!

[jarred03]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 2:09am

I'll be there Saturday night. Me, my sister and my niece are all very big fans of the movie so I hope its good. Although I'm already bummed that Hatchetface and Ramona Rickets were cut from the show, and I hate that no original songs are in the show. They should've at least had King Crybaby and Please Mr. Jailer in the broadway show.

[stageishome]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 2:17am

I want to hear more about Tory Ross as Pepper!

Posted: 3/17/08 at 6:26am

Hatchetface is still in the show; she's billed in the playbill as MONA.

they should have kept the character of Ramona Rickets.

[Yankeefan007]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 7:50am

Broadwaybaby6 - Why do you think that posting photos of you with the cast makes you special?

[lic11101]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 8:46am

I thought that Tory Ross was great, her and Ali Mauzey were pretty fierce. Sadly, they were better than their material.

[WithoutATrace]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 9:39am

Considering that Tory Ross went on with no rehearsal time, she was pretty good. It's an awful role to play though...

Posted: 3/17/08 at 10:36am

im looking forward to tonights reactions.
hopefully, things will tighten up & it will be a wonderful show.

[WithoutATrace]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 11:08am

i'm looking forward to seeing Carly Jibson tonight...i'll make sure to note any changes since Saturday (if there are any)
Updated On: 3/17/08 at 11:08 AM

[Kalimba]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 11:15am

I'll be there tonight. I'm kind of looking forward to it.

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 11:37am

Bravo to Brian S. I'm always surprised at the vitriol directed at shows, and in this case, a first preview. I can understand the disappointment in thinking a show fails, but the glee in trashing a show seems so mean-spirited. I wish the haters could put themselves on the line the way performers do, with their real names, and see how it feels to be judged by the others. If they really knew how much hard work and heart goes into ANY show, I wonder if they'd be just as blithe about knocking it.

WithoutaTrace, after slamming the Saturday night show, you're already going back tonight? Do you really expect the show is going to change that monumentally in one night, even with Carly Jibson in it? Or is it just another chance to slam it again?

[WithoutATrace]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 11:52am

As everyone on this board knows, I love flop musicals. There hasn't been one flop yet this season and now that there is one, I am taking every opportunity I can to see it.

I do not expect the show to change that much with Carly in it, however, I do want to see the show with the full original cast.

...and yes, I will most likely still hate the show! Looking forward to it!

[dramadude]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 12:27pm

Updated On: 4/25/08 at 12:27 PM

Posted: 3/17/08 at 12:49pm

its not bein' a "hater" to want it to be as solid as it can possibly be.

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 1:03pm

Exactly.

My first reaction after the first few minutes of the show is that I didn't care about the two principals. I was waiting for a moment in the show that let me.

In comparison to Hairspray (and I'm making the comparison because of Jon Waters) is that from the get go you care about Tracy and Edna.

The only number that really stuck in my head is the one that resembled, "Hound Dog", though I thought Ally's number in the first act was funny. My favorite number of the evening was definitely the big dance number in Act 2 (I can't remember the title).

[singingbackup]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 1:57pm

Schadenfreude indeed. Sad.

[Kalimba]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 2:10pm

From what I gather reading this thread, it's ok to bash posters here on BWW, but not ok to bash the show. Right?