Colorado Supreme Court upholds ban of smoking onstage- Page 2

[wendilin622]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 10:36am

Agreed Snob. Agreed.

[singtopher]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 10:59am

Correct me if I'm wrong then. From the audience's perspective (which is why I assume this law is being upheld) there is no advantage to the herbal cigarettes. Yesterday when this was discussed on The View they all chimed in with "Not even if they use herbal?" which seems to be an invalid argument given this fact.

Obviously, for the actors sake, herbal is the way to go. And I strongly agree with wendillin's point about theatres using discretion with the amount of smoking in the show, which is why I don't like the law.

[Tag]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 11:08am

So in JB Chicago, when they use the flask instead of the joint, does Bob's Party Girl transfer the liquid into Bob's mouth (like they would do if it was smoke)?

[wendilin622]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 11:09am

My mind went to a very dirty place Tag. Very dirty. tee hee.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 11:15am

This reminds me of Steven Spielberg removing guns from police from ET. He wanted to remove all guns from the film years later but no idea if he ever did. I suggest we do the same for The Longest Day & substitute spitballs. When will this madness end. Hopefully, they won't touch the black & white classics

I love when people will go ape**** over someone lighting a cigarette within 500 feet of them but think nothing about walking the streets clogged with bus,truck & car fumes. Give me cigarette smokey over these pollutants any day.

Updated On: 12/19/09 at 11:15 AM

[ahmelie]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 11:34am

This is BS. I've always loved when REAL cigarettes (or clove, or herbal, whatever- but lit) are used in theatrical performances. Not for the visual, but for the smell. The actual smell. The feeling of an audience (I'm talking tiny theatres with small crowds in intimate spaces) perking up when the smoke starts to hit the audience is palpable. It reminds everyone that you are NOT at home, you are in a room with other people. And sometimes other people do things that you don't like, or aren't comfortable with, or annoy you. And isn't that what's beautiful about theatre? I'm sorry, but theatre as I know it should not be to entertain or comfort. If you want that, go home and get comfy and stop the movie if you don't like it. That's not theatre. The purpose of theatre should be to agitate, and annoy, and challenge, and remind people that there are other people in the world who don't think like you. And they're sitting right next to you, @sshole.

*edited for clarification

Updated On: 12/19/09 at 11:34 AM

[WishingOnlyWounds2]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 1:12pm

Well, then smell wise the herbals are no advantage!

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 2:45pm

Musicsnob, my smoking has nothing to do with my opinion on the sbject. No need to be nasty.

[MusicSnob1]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 4:28pm

No need to continue smoking. Kick the habit, love. You don't want those cancer sticks to be the death of you!

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 7:52pm

I am well aware of the dangers. Trust me. In my time, I will stop. But this isn't about my smoking! :)

[FlyingMonkey1223]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 8:51pm

I can only imagine how many of you people are going to die of lung cancer. Seriously. Nasty. There is no point to having REAL ciggies used in a theatrical production...not for the actors and their health, the crew, or the people who simply work in the theatre and surely not for the audience. Gimme a break and stop making excuses for poor social habits.

[winston89]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 8:52pm

It's funny. There was one time where I was waiting at the stage door after seeing a performance of August and the actress playing Barbra came out and started reaching for a pack of cigarettes. I asked her if she was allowed to smoke real cigarettes onstage, since she and her character are both smokers. And, I was told that despite the fact that she is a smoker, when she is doing the show she has to smoke herbal cigarettes.


I do also know that there are tobacco byproducts that can be smoked by a performer and not mess up their singing voice or be addictive or anything like that. I do know that things like that are used in Next To Normal with Henry's bong. And, they used them in the most recent revival of Grease.

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 9:18pm

Nobody is making excuses for poor habits. And they don't use real cigarettes in productions. And I seriously doubt that the crew and people who work in the theater are affected by the very small amount of smoke on the stage. People who are against this act like the actors are blowing the smoke directly into the audience's faces. Out of the shows I have seen where a character smokes, the "cigarette" is only lit for a short amount of time.

[B3TA07]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 9:20pm

Wait, how does **** like this happen but Colorado gets away with this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/10/gourmet-ganja-colorado-me_n_387978.html

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 10:30pm

B3, thanks for posting that. I think I saw it go by on the news a week ago but didn't pay attention. That place is not really far from me. About a 20 minute walk. It has become a big thing out here. I think they should just legalize it, tax it and make money off of it. Half the state, if not more, smokes pot anyway. Most people here feel the same. And they are "getting away with it" because you have to have your card to buy the food there. They really aren't having a big problem with it but more facilities are opening and now they know they are going to have to bump up regulation. One of the dispensaries was robbed last week. They took the money and left the pot.

[singtopher]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 10:46pm

Yup. That's my home state!

[wendilin622]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 10:51pm

I'm originally from there as well!

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 11:06pm

I have been here for 18 years. So many changes since I have been here.

[winston89]

Posted: 12/19/09 at 11:34pm

uncageg, why do I feel like the whole ban on onstage smoking makes me think of the ads that they have to automatically force any movie, regardless of content to have an R rating if there are any characters who are smoking. You know, the ads by the same people who are convinced that someone is going to start smoking if they see a favorite movie star on the screen light up.

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/20/09 at 12:08am

because, in my opinion, we have taken it all too far. I am all for no smoking in bars, restaurants, etc. As i stated above, I am a smoker. But I don't like to be in smokey rooms or around a lot of smoke. People who don't smoke or whoare ex-smokers just jumped on this train and won't get off. It is a good thing to warn oour youth about the dangers of smoking. When I was young, oh so very long ago, we didn't really have all of these warnings. And It was semi glamorized. As stated, my mom did talk to me about it but I started when I was 18. Also what a lot of people who constanly lecture smokers about the dangers don't understand is that it has gotten so bad, although I would say it has not been as bad in the past few years, that smokers won't stop because they are tired of being lectured. Also, stopping is not as easy as some people thing. I have quit twice already. There is the possible weight gain and the dental issues can be painful and very costly.

Like I said, I feel this whole ban is not a health thing, it is a "we don't do it and we don't like it so we are going to make you stop it" thing.

it's like the whole marijuana drug testing thing. You can smoke a joint and go in for testing two weeks after and not get or lose a job because it will come back positive. However, you can do coke 48 hours before and pass the test. yeah, probably smoking pot is not great for you. But I don't know of anyone who has died from it. Lots of people have died from doing coke and meth. I just wonder how all of these people who support the ban on smoking onstage make it through the day. At some point they have to come into contact with smoke whether it be walking down the street or past office buildings where people are gathered outside smoking. Do they stop and lecture everyone they come in contact with that is smoking? I think not.

**steps off of soapbox and leaves to buy a pack of Marlboros**

[winston89]

Posted: 12/20/09 at 1:34am

uncageg, I smoke as well and just like you I don't do it in front of people who are bothered by the smell of smoke. When I was in school a couple of my friends called me a polite smoker. This is because of the fact that there were other kids there who did smoke, but didn't care if they blew the smoke in your face etc.


It's the same thing on college campuses. There are a lot of campuses that are smoke free and make it a "we don't do it, we don't like it so we're going to make you stop" problem. When this was going on at my college, the thing that bothered me the most was that they were so anti smoking and on a crusade that smokers should quit. However, health services were able to give out condoms by the jar full. But, if a smoker wanted to do right by the school and go there for help on how to quit smoking, they were out of luck.

It was also interesting to find out that since my college is a STRICT dry campus, there were a ton of kids who took up smoking there due to the fact that they really couldn't drink.