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Creative license. How much is too much?

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Creative license. How much is too much?#50

Posted: 1/16/16 at 2:15pm

GavestonPS wrote: "The complicity of those who professed anti-slavery sentiments is something 1776 handles quite well, I think."

 

Agreed, for all its corny affection for the Founding Fathers, 1776 has a clearer and less covert take than HAMILTON on how complicit Northerners like Hamilton were in keeping the slave trade intact and how important the slave trade was to American independence.

 

Updated On: 1/16/16 at 02:15 PM

Creative license. How much is too much?#51

Posted: 1/16/16 at 3:12pm

"Most people don't know much about Alexander Hamilton, so it's easy to treat the show as a kind of expanded School House Rock, particularly since it's based, notably, on an extremely in-depth and well-received biography (which itself has been accused of hagiography). Everyone wants to be an expert."

 

Learning specifics like that they had brothers and that Anjelica was already married at the time does change my perspective on Hamilton. I don't suddenly think it's a terrible show but I think as you said, there's an idea that this musical is illuminating stories of historical figures that aren't often told so these kinds of inaccuracies for the sake of drama are a little deflating. Satisfied is still a great song but the impact is lessened.

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Creative license. How much is too much?#52

Posted: 1/16/16 at 4:27pm

Why is the impact lessened? It's not and never purports to be documentary. 


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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Creative license. How much is too much?#53

Posted: 1/16/16 at 11:01pm

It's more about the experience of watching the show, which seems to be saying "hey we're gonna tell the truth about this guy whose story never gets told". Coming to understand Hamilton as he's portrayed in the show is an extreme pleasure, and while it doesn't explicitly say it is or isn't a documentary, it's still jarring to come out of it in a euphoric daze and then find out about a slew of grubby details that were elided or inverted or gussied up. What that really says, I think, is that the show is awesome and powerful and excellent in its emotional impact, which is why discovery of the actual factual truths can feel a little bit like a betrayal.

Creative license. How much is too much?#54

Posted: 1/16/16 at 11:05pm

and while it doesn't explicitly say it is or isn't a documentary

 

This is a joke, right?  Somewhere on or in this musical it has to SPECIFICALLY SAY it isn't a documentary for our discerning BWW theatergoers to not end up crushed in disappointment?  I would have assumed that people who spend time on this board just KNEW this.


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Creative license. How much is too much?#55

Posted: 1/16/16 at 11:16pm

Consider reading the rest of my post.

 

wait wait let me try

 

FindingNamo said: "crushed ass people"

 

Language!! 

Updated On: 1/16/16 at 11:16 PM

Creative license. How much is too much?#56

Posted: 1/16/16 at 11:29pm

What?  


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Creative license. How much is too much?#57

Posted: 1/16/16 at 11:37pm

I'm saying the rest of my post discusses why, even if it is illogical and we all know the show takes creative license, a viewer can have a negative reaction to finding out what changes were made, but you ignored that and instead cut a choice snippet out that makes me look like a moron when removed of context.

Creative license. How much is too much?#58

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:08am

You're right and it's a pretty choice snippet.  I didn't make up the words, as you did for me.

 

Your response to my response certainly reinforces the vision of the stable critical thinker you created in the post I responded to.  


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Creative license. How much is too much?#59

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:11am

This is really terrific, I feel like we're really breaking new ground in modern discourse.

Creative license. How much is too much?#60

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:16am

No, I don't think we are.  Not if one of us thinks Broadway musicals need to explicitly state they are not documentaries.


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Creative license. How much is too much?#61

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:20am

Did either of us say that?

Creative license. How much is too much?#62

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:20am

You know the real Fraulein Maria was a snatch, right?


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Creative license. How much is too much?#63

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:24am

And Georges Seurat didn't have a daughter.

Creative license. How much is too much?#64

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:27am

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

 

 


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Creative license. How much is too much?#65

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:28am

What about On Your Feet!?

Creative license. How much is too much?#66

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:30am

Isn't that a NatGeo documentary about penguins?


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Creative license. How much is too much?#67

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:33am

I think that's Happy Days. 

Creative license. How much is too much?#68

Posted: 1/17/16 at 12:55am

Right!  Where the two male penguins carry an egg and jump over a shark.


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