Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
#1Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 2:31pm
After seeing Les Miserables for the second time yesterday, I started to think about the rawness of Hathaway's 'I Dreamed a Dream' against how the song is typically approached.
Now I did not see her in the role, so anyone who did feel free to disagree, but from what I've seen, do we think Daphne Rubin Vega's Fantine would have been received with more open arms post-Hathaway? Her voice is obviously not your ideal choice for Fantine, but it brings a weakness, and a rawness to the song. Not for everyone, but it's there.
I should state I am in no way a fan of Rubin Vega, just wanted to hear others opinions.
#2Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 2:58pm
There's a big difference though- Hathaway, though not the semi-operatic voice that years of Les Mis as a "modern Broadway operetta" has trained us to expect with a nod to Susan Boyle, has a relatively conventional musical theatre "actress who sings fairly well" voice. It's not the ravaged, damaged and idiosyncratic tone of Rubin-Vega's voice, with its raspy howl, ghost of a mostly-gone accent, and and unique phrasings.
I LIKED Rubin-Vega because it WAS different, but comparing it to Hathaway's live singing is something of an apples and oranges statement, in my opinion.
jimmycurry01
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/05
#2Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 3:01pmIt turns out that I like Rubin-Vega's performance less than I remembered. I also thought to compare the two.
#3Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 3:04pm
"I should state I am in no way a fan of Rubin Vega, just wanted to hear others opinions."
Glad you made that crystal clear. God forbid you like her!
#4Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 3:51pmI think Rubin Vega's rendition would have been helped by the new placement of the song (after the prostitution, etc). I think her raw sound would fit better in that case.
#5Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 4:41pmI think NOTHING would make her rendition more acceptable. It was painful to listen to. Hathaway's rendition is "raw" as you say. Her character was damaged. The damage that came across in Daphne's performance was her VOCAL DAMAGE. I also found her portrayal incredibly stilted.
#6Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 5:57pmGoodness I just listened to only a few seconds of that song...so painful...
#7Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 6:20pmI said helped, not fixed. I'm not a Daphne Rubin-Vega at all, in fact I don't really like her. I totally agree with you that her voice is too damaged and just wrong for the part. I just think that the new order of the songs could have helped her a little.
#8Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 6:28pm
I actually don't mind her vocals here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjBpXXnKIs
I hate when the song is performed as a big inspirational power ballad.
Updated On: 1/6/13 at 06:28 PM
#9Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 6:33pmI thought she waa great in the role. And I also know a lot of other did, also. And I ALSO know there's a lot of people who didn't see her do it who say how much they hate her, because like a lot of other things, it's cool to be like other people.
#10Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 6:37pm
And I ALSO know there's a lot of people who didn't see her do it who say how much they hate her, because like a lot of other things, it's cool to be like other people.
This could not be more true.
PS: What happened to your avatars?
#11Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 6:39pm
I tried uploading a new one last night but it won't let me do it on my phone. I'm waiting for my new computer to be delivered this week so I guessbi haffa wait until then.
#12Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 7:28pmI assumed his new avatar ran away with one of the previous ones. Either that or they've been formed into a Green (Pink?) Beret team of musclemen, porn stars and male gigolos who can track down the trolls on the board and beat them to death with their dicks.
bobs3
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/8/12
#13Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 7:31pm
Isn't Daphne Rubin Vega a little long in the tooth to play Fantine? She could possibly get away with it on stage but on film -- no way.
If the film had been made 8 years ago Marion Cotillard would have been perfect but 8 years ago no one (in the U.S. at least) knew who Marion Cotillard was.
#14Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 7:51pmDid anyone say they wanted Daphne to do another musical version of the LES MIS on screen?
#15Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 8:20pmNo, I don't think that Rubin Vega was/is right for Fantine at any point in time. I remember there were a few times when I saw the revival of the show, where at intermission, people were talking about how glad they were that Fantine finally finally kicked the bucket. They couldn't stand her singing.
#16Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/6/13 at 10:02pm
Wow, I forgot how truly dreadful she was as Fantine , well, or anything. She always sounds like she garbled with drano.
Truly one of the worst voices to be in a broadway musical.
grumpyoptimist
Leading Actor Joined: 2/26/11
#17Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/7/13 at 12:53amAt the time of the revival Les Mis was my favorite show. Ms. Rubin-Vega's performance made me consider seriously leaving...and then I remembered I wouldn't have to endure her breathy, over-enunciated lyrics again until the end of the show. The friend who was with me (and has seen a decent amount of theatre with me) said she had never seen me physically react to one actor/actress the way I did to her every time she opened her mouth.
#18Daphne Rubin Vega as Fantine post-Hathaway
Posted: 1/7/13 at 10:40pm
I think her singing would be more listenable if THAT voice didn't sing with THAT phrasing. I mean, I admire her clean diction, but with a raspy alto...it just hits the ear wrong.
I think a lot of casting from that revival caused some violent disdain from audiences.
I liked her take on Fantine. It's not supposed to be pretty. But OH it's an opera, and it was my first musical, and it demands professional singers, and that one note was sour so the whole song is wrong....
Whatever. You want someone destroying a Les Mis song, look up Katie Holmes singing "On My Own". THAT's abominable.
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