Did HAMILTON Recoup?

I think it was in october when they announced they had 25%.

http://deadline.com/2015/10/hamilton-on-broadway-returned-25-of-its-12-5m-costs-in-five-weeks-1201579336/



October 13: With advance ticket sales now in the $40 million range — a figure comparable to The Book Of Mormon and the opening of Miss Saigon in 1991 — and tickets harder to come by than a kind word for Trevor Noah, the Hamilton money machine churns on. Production sources tell Deadline that just five weeks after its August 6 opening night at the Nederlander Organization’s Richard Rodgers Theatre, the rap-heavy musical biography of the first Secretary of the Treasury had returned to investors one-quarter of its $12.5 million capitalization.

Announcing that a show has recouped is not required; it is not like announcing the grosses. Hamilton has undoubtedly recouped.

in the most basic of terms, because they have no reason to. It is obvious they recouped, and they certainly don't need to convince anyone that the show is not a flop. some producers are eager to announce and others couldn't care less.

They will announce it when it happens. When was the last time a non-Disney show didn't announce the fact they recouped? It's a big milestone and we'll hear from them when they do.

ray-andallthatjazz86 said: "They will announce it when it happens. When was the last time a non-Disney show didn't announce the fact they recouped? It's a big milestone and we'll hear from them when they do.



There have been at least two Disney shows that come to mind that have announced recoupment. One was Poppins and the other was Newsies.

It does make it hard to decide if we should be incensed that they didn't announce when they recouped or incensed that they announced it like we couldn't have figured that out on our own...

Does nobody else find it weird that when "BroadwayJournal" called Sam Rudy he didn't even know??

Updated On: 3/18/16 at 12:35 PM

Financial and business related news is relevant and interesting to a lot of people. Ever heard of Consumer Reports or CNBC? It's just interesting to some of us. It is after all, how the business runs.

And honestly, even when a show recoups, it's smart to wait on announcing until a bit after the fact so that the royalty cycle is closed and you are 100% sure there aren't any expenses for those weeks. Recoupment changes so many payments which in turn affect the running costs of the show. I've seen producers announce too early, and it's not pretty when your creatives read you've recouped (and are expecting higher payments) but then it turns out you haven't.

jm226-I agree. And referencing the supermarket comment, yes some people not only eat but are interested in which stores are doing well and which are about to close. I do think it is important to understand that while we may want to know everything, we don't have some "right" to know everything.

mc1227 said: "Wouldn't someone be able to tell how well a show is doing by the weekly grosses that are posted here?"

ordinarily, no. In the case of Hamilton, because the math is ineluctable, yes.

Obviously, if a show is selling decently and their gross potential are staying above 50%, it will keep running, regardless if it has recouped or not.

Not necessarily.

The previous posts were implying that because a show hadn't announced that it had recouped, that there was something shady or underhanded going on.

I did not get that from any posts. All I saw was the usual sense of entitlement that permeates this board.

That's what I was responding to. Again, if you go to a store and no one is in there on a consistent basis, chances are that store will close. You don't have to ask the store for their balance sheet to figure that out.

You might not. someone interested in the business side of the store might however. Just as we don't all like the same shows, we aren't all interested in the same things. When I go to a show with a lighting designer they spend a lot of time checking out the plot.

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