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BroadwayLuv
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 12:31pm
This question is inspired by seeing "Follies."
In that show, "Broadway Baby" -- a GREAT number -- is sung by Hattie, a relatively minor character.
My question: Is this the biggest disparity between quality (showstopper-ness) of a song and significance of the character who sings it?
Yes, yes, I know all the ex-Weismann girls are important to the creators' vision for their story and this is no reflection on Jayne Houdyshell's performance. It's just that Hattie is mostly comic relief, and I don't think she even has any lines after the song, which is early in Act 1. It's a pretty small role with no impact on the main storyline (Sally, Phyllis & husbands).
What other standout numbers are sung by minor characters in other musicals?
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 12:40pm"Too Darn Hot" for one.
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 12:41pm
Tessie O'Shea's "London" medley in THE GIRL WHO CAME TO SUPPER
Gilbert Price and "Feelin' Good" in ROAR OF THE GREASEPAINT
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 12:47pm
"Doatsy Mae" in Whorehouse
"Frank Mills" in Hair
"Rita's Tune" in Sweet Smell of Success
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 12:55pmSubmitted for your consideration: Berthe's number, No Time At All, from Pippin.
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 12:57pm
"Another Suitcase in Another Hall" from Evita.
"He Plays the Violin", "Momma Look Sharp" and, arguably, "The Lees of Old Virginia" from 1776.
"To Each His Dulcinea" from Man of La Mancha.
"A Fact Can Be a Beautiful Thing" from Promises, Promises.
Gaveston2
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 12:58pm
The "Star to Be" doesn't even get a character name or an entire number, but she steals ANNIE in "NYC." At least Laurie Beechman did.
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 1:02pmBonnie Franklin sang a large part of the title song from Applause. The title of her character was gypsy.
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 1:05pm
Although Tessie arguably has an impact on the dramatic arc of the show, I think "Gotta Get a Gimmick" would qualify.
Nettik
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 1:11pm
"'Til We Reach That Day" from Ragtime
"Acid Queen" from Tommy
Gaveston2
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 1:11pmAnd Bonnie Franklin was nominated for a Tony Award for her two choruses of "Applause."
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 1:41pmPetra - The Miller's Son in A Little Night Music.
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 1:53pmAlso, Rapunzel's Prince has very little to do outside of Agony and its reprise -- a few very brief book scenes with Rapunzel and the Witch -- but they're among the most popular numbers in the show.
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 1:54pm
"Zip" from Pal Joey
Farmer and the Cowman
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 2:09pm
Be Italian - Nine
Beauty School Dropout - Grease
He Plays The Violin - 1776
Bigger Isn't Better - Barnum
Guv'ment - Big River
Lost And Found - City Of Angels
Aother Suitcase In Another Hall - Evita
Merci, Bon Dieu - Goodbye Charlie
Whatever Happened To Saturday Night - Rocky Horror Show
The Grass Is Always Greener - Woman Of The Year
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 3:53pmWildcat: Your two examples are excellent, with numbers from THE GIRL WHO CAME TO SUPPER and THE ROAR OF THE GREASEPAINT, THE SMELL OF THE CROWD--two shows that I loved, now apparently lost in the haze of yesteryear.
Gaveston2
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 7:40pm
Americans didn't understand the Beckett and Marxian references in GREASEPAINT's day. I can't imagine what they would think of it now!
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 9:54pmSomewhere, as sung by a random chorus girl in the dream ballet.
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Posted: 9/9/11 at 11:17pm
Miss Marmelstein from "I Can Get It For You Wholesale." I never saw the show, but from what I understand she's a minor character - but Streisand became famous from it.
That Dirty Old Man from "Forum" - Hero's mother is fairly minor.
Isn't "Steam Heat" from Pajama Game sung by a minor character?
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Posted: 9/10/11 at 12:23am
Gladys, who sings and dances "Steam Heat" in PAJAMA GAME is the second female lead.
I read the script of WHOLESALE only recently and was surprised by how much stage time Miss Marmelstein actually has. Apart from leading three other numbers she is a constant presence in the garment factory scenes.
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Posted: 9/10/11 at 10:58am
I guess Gladys is, but it never struck me as a very big role other than that song - at least musically.
I didn't know about Miss Marmlestein - like I said, I've only heard the cast album.
Another example is Nimue in Camelot - she only sings Follow Me and then is gone. In a way Mordred is similar, but he has a bigger book part.
daredevil
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Posted: 9/10/11 at 11:04am
Nimue, in Camelot, is actually an offstage voice (atleast she was in the original production). The character basically exists to get Merlin out of the play. And Wildcat is right; I saw the original Wholesale and Miss Marmelstein has only a few scenes in the first act (beginning and end) but much more in the second. She also is the lead singer in "What Are They Doing to Us Now", later in the act. But with the exception of the lead, Harry Bogin (Elliott Gould) the musical has about eight featured characters who have much the same stage time, and move in and out of the plot.
One other example: Gentleman Jimmy from Fiorello, sung by a performer, not in the rest of the show.
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Posted: 9/10/11 at 4:06pmNimue is offstage? I've only seen a regional production, and it was a few years ago, but I remember the actress on stage. Could have just been the staging, I guess.
Gaveston2
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
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Posted: 9/10/11 at 8:32pm
Maybe we could agree that the issue is whether the character plays an important role in the plot.
Gladys and her key turn out to be central to resolving THE PAJAMA GAME's story. (BTW, she also has major dance turns in "Once a Year Day", "Her Is" and, IIRC, "Hernando's Hideaway".)
"Star to Be" in ANNIE and "Bonnie" (Bonnie Franklin) in APPLAUSE are not important to the plots of their shows. (BTW, a poster above says Franklin's role was called "Gypsy." IBDB lists her as "Bonnie." IIRC somebody actually calls her "Bonnie" toward the beginning of the number.)
Likewise, Pippin supposedly learns something from visiting his grandmother, but "Time to Start Living" it's basically just a specialty bit. If Pippin passed Grandma's house without stopping, the rest of the play would unfold much the same.
Gaveston2
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
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Posted: 9/10/11 at 8:33pmYes, Nimue is off-stage in the original libretto. Her voice is heard in Merlin's mind, much to Arthur's bafflement, IIRC.
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