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#1

Dropping the word "gay" from lyrics - which showtunes would change

So which showtunes would have to be changed if this becomes a trend?

"I Remember It Well" from Gigi
"A Wonderful Guy" from South Pacific
are a couple that come to mind right away, but I know there are lots more.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100902/ap_on_re_as/as_australia_song_controversy



SYDNEY – An Australian school principal has asked students to stop using the word "gay" when singing a classic children's song, but said Thursday no offense was intended — he was simply trying to keep the kids from laughing.

Principal Garry Martin of Le Page Primary School in Melbourne said he instructed students to substitute the line "Fun your life must be" for the original "Gay your life must be" when singing "Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree." The song about a native Australian bird is a favorite around campfires from New Zealand to Canada.

Martin said he was playing a recording of the song for the students about a month ago when the line "gay your life must be" produced a flurry of giggles throughout the classroom. Some of the students use the word "gay" as a schoolyard taunt, he said, but don't understand its true meaning. And so, to calm them down, he told them to swap in the word "fun" for "gay."

"It wasn't misplaced political correctness, it wasn't homophobia, there was nothing really calculated in doing it," he told The Associated Press. "I could've stopped the whole class and gone into a very caring, supportive explanation of gay being quite a reasonable choice in lifestyle that some people make, but I was only talking with 7- and 8-year-olds and I think that sort of thing is better explained more fully with parents."

His decision erupted into a controversy, he said, after one of the students told his parents about Martin's change to the song. Word then spread from the parents to friends to the local newspaper, which ran a story — and Martin found himself being bombarded with angry e-mails.

"Some think I'm the devil incarnate," he said.

Crusader Hillis, CEO of the gay and lesbian advocacy group The Also Foundation, didn't go that far — but he did call the lyrical swap an overreaction.

"It sends a signal to people that just because a word has two meanings, that one of those meanings is unacceptable and that's really putting us backwards," Hillis said. "Even if it's done for good intentions because 'gay' is being used in schoolyards as a slur, I think they need to use the word as a conversation rather than banning it."

Martin said his decision was a mistake made with the best of intentions, and he plans to speak to the students about how different words hold different meanings across generations.

He also plans to ask students to sing the original version of the song.

But, he added, "We might not sing it that often now."

#3

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

Some versions of "You Could Drive A Person Crazy" have already replaced "fag" with "drag".
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#4

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

"Keep It Gay," obviously, from both THE PRODUCERS and ME AND JULIET.
Cheyenne Jackson tickled me. AFTER ordering SoMMS a drink but NOT tickling him, and hanging out with Girly in his dressing room (where he DIDN'T tickle her) but BEFORE we got married. To others. And then he tweeted Boobs. He also tweeted he's good friends with some chick on "The Voice" who just happens to be good friends with Tink's ex. And I'm still married. Oh, and this just in: "Pettiness, spite, malice ....Such ugly emotions... So sad." - After Eight, talking about MEEEEEEEE!!! I'm so honored! :-)
#10

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

"The Lusty Month of May" from Camelot.

Personally, I don't find the change homophobic, and I agree that the word usage in some older songs can be extremely distracting. Times have changed and the word is simply almost never used today to mean happy. In musical theatre it is especially distracting, and can pull you right out of the story, when the word elicits the same response from a room full of adults as it did in this situation with a room full of seven and eight year olds.
#11

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

'There Right There' from Legally Blonde
<--- the set of A Midsummer Night's Dream that I was assistant stage manager for during the 2007 season at the STNJ outdoor stage.

-Dre-
You must remember all the same that at the crux of every game is knowing when it's time to leave the table... And it's important to be artful in your exit. No turning back, you must accept the con is done... It was a ball, it was a blast. And it's a shame it couldn't last. But every chapter has to end, you must agree.
~Dirty Rotten Scoundrels~

There's a special kind of people known as show people. We live in a world full of dreams. Sometimes we're not too certain what's false and what's real. But we're seldom in doubt about what we feel.
~Curtains~

It is a far, far better thing I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest I go to, than I have ever known.
~A Tale of Two Cities ~
#12

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

I think that this is utterly ridiculous. Yes, we are all well aware that the word "gay" nowadays has a negative meaning associated with it. However, I don't believe that it would pull someone out of the moment of the show to just hear that word. Most people who have some sense of an education or some sense of the english language understand that the word has, in the past, had a different meaning. And, that meaning was happy rather than homosexual.

I agree with Joekv99 that most theatre goers who are seeing revivals are able to understand the difference between the word being used then and now.
"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear" Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll
#14

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

Isn't it rich?
Wasn't it just born that way?
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe." -John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#17

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

^ Tell me about it.
"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert
#18

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

Yes, we are all well aware that the word "gay" nowadays has a negative meaning associated with it.

Um, I'm not. It has a different, more common definition, but if you think "gay" is negative, go to a therapist.

Everyone suggesting songs like "Keep It Gay" and "If You Were Gay" seems to have entirely missed the point of this thread.
Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters. ~ Wicked
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent

"He's a tramp, but I love him."
#21

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

"Glitter And Be Lightheartedly Enthusiastic" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
#24

Dropping the word 'gay' from lyrics - which showtunes would change

Yes, but that was due to the constant speculation that Bobby is a closeted homosexual. In order to write that possibility more firmly out of the show, Sondheim removed the lyric questioning Bobby's sexuality, and Furth included an additional rewritten scene where Bobby is shown to be very slightly (and awkwardly) homophobic.

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