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#1

Fame - 2009

I really went in to this film today expecting a hokey, watered down version of what I consider to be one of the greatest "show business" movies ever made. I walked out very confused as to what I had just seen. It wasn't a bad movie. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a good movie, either. It fell somewhere in between in a world where it had a lot of promise but chose the safe, family friendly way out most of the times.

Fame 2009 follows the original only in a very few ways, from audition day to Freshman - Senior year. These segments feel entirely too short and really, not a lot happens in each one. There are no characters from the original film being retold here. Some are combinations of different people and some are brand new (which is good, I suppose) except that you don't really care much about them. They're not given much opportunity to really develop a character outside of "I want to be a director" or "I actually want to be a singer". Ok, now that we know that, why should we care if you DO become a singer? Or if you become an actor? It's a shame that the lead girls biggest problem in the movie is whether or not she can get back together with her boyfriend. I know they tried to give them stories outside of the school and pursuing their dreams but most of these characters don't even get the chance to show why they're in the school in the first place.

I've read a lot about this movie and about how there are no gay characters in it, which I guess helped get it it's PG rating (sad but true) but we were thrown one little bone at the end when a character gives us a "gay gasp" to let us know that yes, even though things aren't going his way, he's still going to be fabulous.

Besides that, a few things just don't make sense to me. *minor spoiler* How did the girl who majored in piano get the lead vocals at the end of the years concert? How did the dancer who was told he wasn't going to make it get to stand front and center at that concert? For a movie that tried to be realistic, in a few too many ways, it feel far from it. I hate to compare this to the original, but when that ended, you felt a sense of hope for these kids. You knew what a long road they had ahead of them and that they weren't all going to make it but you thought "This is possible, even for me". I remember having that feeling for myself when I first saw it. I saw it for the first time when I realized I wanted to be an actor. It scared me. But it also excited me. There was electricity in it and I knew that if I worked hard enough (something I'm doing still) I can achieve what I want.

When the film today ended, I felt nothing for them. It's a shame they chose to go the safe route with this. It's a great story that given the chance should have been retold correctly. But that's just my opinion.
#2

re: Fame - 2009

"Besides that, a few things just don't make sense to me. *minor spoiler* How did the girl who majored in piano get the lead vocals at the end of the years concert?"
Her performance at the club...teachers were there. I'm not to sure about the dancer, but he was dead center going in for curtain calls so it could just be that.

I personally enjoyed the movie but felt a few of the dancing scenes were too long, and that there wasn't enough character development.
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#3

re: Fame - 2009

Yeah the teachers were there for that, but in a performing arts school there are people studying voice for 4 years. They would have been PISSED if some random girl from the music department was picked over them to sing.
#4

re: Fame - 2009

I saw it last night and I am seriously dumber for having watched it. I can't even begin to talk about the plot holes because there were soooo many.
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#5

re: Fame - 2009

I'm seeing it tomorrow. I think I heard a while ago that Bebe Neuwirth was in it. How was she? I'm looking forward to seeing it, but I'm a little scared about how it looks like they hip-ified the music. I really hate hip-hop/rap/R&B music, which makes me concerned.
#6

re: Fame - 2009

Bebe is wonderful but her part, as well as that of the other teachers, is minimal. Spoilers below! I enjoyed some of the movie's musical numbers, but overall I thought the movie was a mess. Most character's stories got little to no resolution. Alice for example. We learn nothing about her, all of the sudden she's accepted to a great dance company, and we never see or hear from her again. Denise's conflict was resolved with 3 quick sentences from her mother, and there was no explanation for the kid who wanted to be a director when he got scammed. So much of the film went by too fast and made no sense! Also, the title song didn't show up until the credits. I guess that's not a huge deal but I found it odd.
#7

re: Fame - 2009

I haven't seen the 2009 version, but I have recently watched the original, and the things you said about not feeling for the 2009 characters, etc. were the things I felt for the original. I felt that it went to quickly, and I didn't feel anything for them. So, if you felt that way about this one, I'll probably feel even more strongly about that fact.
#8

re: Fame - 2009

I agree with everything you said, but I still enjoyed it. It was definitely watered down but there were moments where I felt really connected to the story. Part of this may have to do with the fact that I was at a summer theater intensive where we did many of the things that you see the acting students doing in the movie. But yes, there were many holes and it didn't have the spirit of the original.

Bebe Neuwirth was wonderful. And if you look closely at her desk when they are sitting in her office, you can see a picture of her and Chita Rivera. Although the shot was so quick that it may have been Liza, but I'm pretty sure it was Chita.

Also, pay close attention to the woman singing when they first walk into the karaoke place. She was my acting teacher from the summer :)
#9

re: Fame - 2009

Edna, I agree with you about the original. Maybe it's that I don't have the nostalgia of others who grew up with the material, but parts of it were just as weak as the 2009 version. The plotlines were just as one-dimensional, dated, and unresolved. It was trying to present a gritty view of 1980 New York City but its schmaltzy cliches undermined the grit. The remake is slicker but more honest in that it exists only for entertainment. It doesn't pretend to have any great insights, and I had a decent time with it.
#10

re: Fame - 2009

I may have to go see it, or rent it when it comes out, to have a real opinion about this new one. It should be interesting.
#11

re: Fame - 2009

Allie, it was Chita.


Little thing about the original post that's been bugging me:
"I've read a lot about this movie and about how there are no gay characters in it, which I guess helped get it it's PG rating (sad but true) but we were thrown one little bone at the end when a character gives us a "gay gasp" to let us know that yes, even though things aren't going his way, he's still going to be fabulous."

*SPOILER BELOW*
I personally find that statement very stereo-typical, can a boy only be gay to like Gucci, can he not be metro, or just like the look? Also, after he *SPOILER* tries to commit suicide *END SPOILER* I feel he thought about it and went back to his mom's dance studio, they mentioned the studio in the beginning for a reason.
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#12

re: Fame - 2009

That's what I thought. Thanks!
#13

re: Fame - 2009

The reviews I have read have been mostly bad and said that the "depth and grit" from the original film is completely absent.

Does Coco take her top off in the new version?
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#14

re: Fame - 2009

I saw it yesterday with a huge group of friends from my highschool. We go to an arts school, must of the ones who came were from musical theatre (including myself), so we enjoyed ourselves, trying to compare it to our school (very different, but it was funny).

None of the characters/plots were very well developed so even when **SPOILER** Kevin attempted suicide **END SPOILER** I didn't even feel for him, b/c his character had no depth.

And while the story lines were dramatic and should have been emotional, I was only near tears during the audition sequence when Joy was doing her monologue. B/c it was my monologue from Rocky Horror (Coloumbia) which I finished this summer and it was a really emotional show/part for me, so it was just really weird/sad to hear/see it being done. I miss that show/role so much!
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#15

re: Fame - 2009

I thought it was a wretched remake, simply wretched. It lacked any realism and I can't believe for a second some of these kids were the best out of the 10000 we're told auditioned for PA. The rap, hip hop, and whiny boyband/pretty princess pop music did not do it for me, but I did like the dancing. I thought the character development was non-existent.
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#16

re: Fame - 2009

They should re-title the film LAME.
#17

re: Fame - 2009

This is no Coco. Instead the girl who kind of follows that storyline goes to the trailer of this guy who graduated from PA and is now working on some big TV show. He tells her that if she wants to be on the show, she has to do a scene with him on tape. He basically just tries to make out with her and she tells him to stop and leaves.
#18

re: Fame - 2009

Its a mess and lacks all the grit and passion of the original, it was only a slight step up from HSM
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#19

re: Fame - 2009

"I was only near tears during the audition sequence when Joy was doing her monologue."

Seriously... when this part came on, I turned to my friend and we started cracking up. We'd done an annual production of Rocky Horror for four years, and thinking that someone used this completely (and purposely) terrible monologue as an audition piece for a prestigious school was hysterical. We thought they were showing bad auditions for comedic value (same thing with the director kid who did the Raging Bull monologue), and then she got in. TERRIBLE.
#20

re: Fame - 2009

I walked out entirely not sure of what I just watched. It's as if they took some really cool music and needed to put it somewhere and kind of came up with a lackluster storyline.

The dance sequences, however, were phenomenal.
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#21

re: Fame - 2009

perfectliar: I know the monologue is terrible, and it wasn't her performance that "moved" me... it was a rush of nostalgia for a show that I really miss working on.
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#22

re: Fame - 2009

This movie was a complete let down. No character development whatsoever. The only good part of the show were the dance numbers. The choreography was superb.
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#23

re: Fame - 2009

What can I say that hasn't already been said?

This FAME was dreadful. No heart, no grit, no edge. Talent ranged from serviceable to poor, and the seasoned vets were all wasted in this shoddy product.

I came home and set my iTunes to "I Sing the Body Electric." It was therapeutic.
#24

re: Fame - 2009

aliceidinabernadette - I wasn't making fun of you, I was just floored by that whole scene. What were these filmmakers thinking?
#25

re: Fame - 2009

What do you all expect from a director who is only 22 years old and whose credits include MTV, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, & Jessica Simpson ? He is younger than most of the cast from the film, so although he may have some technical film saavy, there's not too much "life" experience there.

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