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#26

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/13/13 at 10:25pm

The narration (for GOLDEN APPLE) was added at the recording session to cover all of the missing material.

Got it. Thanks. It's still one of my favorite OBC recordings.

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 2:58pm

Many of those above

All of Wildhorns

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#28

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 3:39pm

I have a soft spot for Whistle Down the Wind, one of ALW's better scores and some of Jim Steinman's best lyrics. I think it would have caught on as an audience favorite had some of Bill Kenwright's changes been dropped, and the show gone to Broadway at last.

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#29

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 7:40pm

Chess!!

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 7:48pm

I think the text changes that Kenwright made to Whistle Down the Wind were great. The added song that the man sings "So Many Cries" or "Say a Prayer" or whatever it's called is some of Andrew's best stuff and the new song "The Tribe" (or "The Gang" in the short-lived US tour) was also nice. I think the text has been made better over the years. It just needs a good director now.

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 8:31pm

And I think "The Tribe"/"Gang" is a cutesy pile of crap. I like some of where the book had gotten, but by and large, it was better in London. "So Many Cries" has been in the show since 1998, just not under that title until Kenwright's go at it (well... it goes by that title in the vocal score, but "It Just Doesn't Get Any Better Than This" is also named for the long-gone "Grown-Ups Kill Me" in that same vocal score, so make of that what you will). Also, Kenwright split up "Unsettled Scores" and stuck half of it into "So Many Cries," so that adds to the confusion.

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Updated On: 9/14/13 at 08:31 PM

#32

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 9:04pm

Bonnie and Clyde

#33

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 9:58pm

Was out jogging just this morning to A MAN OF NO IMPORTANCE. One of Flaherty and Ahrens' best!

Also, 110 IN THE SHADE
PACIFIC OVERTURES

and was THE SECRET GARDEN a flop? It's in frequent rotation on my tunes too.

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/14/13 at 10:42pm

Bajour
Golden Rainbow

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 12:15am

"The Grass Harp"

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 7:39am

ANYONE CAN WHISTLE
MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 9:14am

Oh, Brother

#38

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 9:21am

HENRY, SWEET HENRY
WOMEN ON THE VERGE
FOLLIES
ALL AMERICAN
IT'S A BIRD, IT'S A PLANE, IT'S SUPERMAN

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#39

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 9:34am

All American would be a great Encores choice.

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 9:35am

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Updated On: 9/15/13 at 09:35 AM

#41

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 12:23pm

Grey Gardens

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 2:46pm

Bonnie and Clyde's score is exceptional.

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/15/13 at 6:05pm

Indeed it is

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#44

Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/26/13 at 2:28am

I guess flop can only mean "lost money" and not "artistic failure" which I thought was meant. I was going to say "Dear World" as it.'s hard for me to think of "Follies" and "Ragtime" (two of my favorites) as flops.

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Flop Musicals That Just Happen To Have Excellent Scores?

Posted: 9/26/13 at 8:59pm

If one likes Jule Styne (and what's not to like?), then FADE OUT, FADE IN is one of his best. (It's also an interesting example in the debate over what constitutes a flop: the show was a smash hit until Carol Burnett was injured (her version) or lost interest (the opposite view) and then withdrew permanently when she later became pregnant.

After GYPSY and FUNNY GIRL, this is Styne's best, I think.

(ETA I still find FADE OUT... hysterical today, but it is so closely tailored to Burnett's talents, it's hard to imagine who else could play the leading role. Not Sarah Jessica Parker; that's for sure!)

Updated On: 9/26/13 at 08:59 PM