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#26

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Why does everything have to be personal on here? Why does it seem like people attack the posters and not the posts? I'm pretty sure I said in my post I understand that a performer being a no show is part of live theater...I wasn't bellyaching, I was trying to say that it's selfish for a performer to not show at a performance if they don't have a valid reason. People seem to be comparing this job to a straight job-but it's not. Not when you're a marquee star. People don't come to Best Buy to see me, I don't fly to New York to have the Borders clerk I like... I just wanted to voice my opinion that when i star misses a performance it carries a bit more gravity than you allow for. Broadwaylilhead... When somebody steps in for a role it's their role...and they would be who I want to see when I get there. That little bit of defensiveness aside... who do u think they will get to replace her?

Kevin

Jesus saves. I spend.
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"who do u think they will get to replace her?"

a trained sheep. all the vocals will be recorded by the helium queen before she vamooses outta dodge, uh, i mean oz.
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#28

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Guys I don't think we need to be "attacking" Kristin where her health is concerned. She has been sick, and she does have a neck injury with which she does perform even when she's in pain. I give her credit when she does go on not feeling well. Do I agree with her work ethic considering the amount of performances she has missed? Certainly not.
As far has her flying out to L.A., it doesn't matter how some of us know she does that. Like I said, it's none of our business as to why she's going out there. I just hope whatever her reason is for going and causing herself to become run-down is worth the risk of getting a bad reputation and dissapointing many fans. Not only that, but I'm sure the other actors in Wicked are getting annoyed with everything.
I believe Idina said in an interview that she (herself) has not missed a performance. She feels that people come to see the both of them, and she would not feel right dissapointing the audience. She has a great work ethic!

As far as whoever it was that said Broadway performers only work 3 hours a night...the don't. As singnyc said, they work much more than that. Also, I don't think it's right to compare what they do to a retail job. I've seen people work retail. It's not the same as getting up on stage every night and physically straining your voice and your body. Not to mention doing press related activities, giving up on going out with you friends or family, going to Weddings, parties, other social activities. These actors and singers give up a lot to be on that stage every night.
"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~
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for $20,000 a week, like the bobsy twins make, let me next suffer the horrors of an 8 show week, please.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#30

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Alright, so i know that performers give more than three hours...you're nit picking with me there. The point being, while being a performer is very hard and quite draining, it is an entirely different type of draining then working in the straight world. Straining your voice, while a completely real thing, compares in no way to straining your back while lifting a television. Doing press for a show for hours is not comprobable to working road construction. Doing a radio interview, while I'd imagine is very inconvient when my soaps are on, is not nearly as stressful as teaching a class room of children. Period. As for attacking Kristin...honey chile, I paid my hundred dollars and I will attack attack. It's not as if I'm throwing paint on her fur. She's not gonna go boo hoo 'cause some yahoo out in Chicago was mad she missed a performance...and why aren't you defending Laura Bell Bundy? Isn't having no talent a sickness she is not to be blamed for? (Side not, I think Laura Bell Bundy is quite talented...though I haven't seen her in wicked...I'm just playing devil's high paid defense attorney)

Alright...
Your turn

Kevin
Jesus saves. I spend.
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That's kind of a cop out isn't? Anyone can make hypothetical comparison about anything...that's what we do on the boards here often. To state an opinion about something with certainty just means you are certain about your opinion. You shouldn't attack someone's opinion simply because they have an opinion you don't agree with. But, since you asked, I have worked road construction, I do work retail which requires me to lift televisions, and twice a year I direct play and the musical at the local high school...though tragically, I have not yet been an oft absent broadway star. I picked those jobs because I knew someone would say something petty like that. So, let's stop picking on each other and discuss who's gonna replace Kristin in a role seemingly tailored to the last stitch. Papa has suggested a trained sheep...which seems to be what they have in Laura Bell Bundy (don't hit the reply button I'm JOKING). Any other thoughts? Will they get someone similar or will they go another way? And what about Idina?
Jesus saves. I spend.

Updated On: 3/15/04 at 03:27 PM

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"She has been sick, and she does have a neck injury with which she does perform even when she's in pain"

"Well, I think paying 100 dollars a ticket gives someone plenty of room to judge"

I think I can see both sides of this. Yes she may be she was sick and if that is the case, I don't blame her for wanting to try to get better.

However, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't she know what she was getting into when she accepted a role on Broadway?

On a MUCH more personal note...when I was about 10 years old, my mother (she's a lawyer) had to commute to Chicago for a case three times a week, every week for 6-8 months. On the days she had to go, she would take one of the earliest flights in and fly back to NY that night, where there was always boxes of other cases for her to look over when she wasn't in the office. But, she did it because it was important to be around while I was growing up (I still feel awful about that, but I was/am happy that she did all of that.

So yes, you get rundown, but you body DOES adapt. That causes me to be a bit weary of the whole thing. Just my opinion though.

Also I've never have loved or hated Kristin. I do have tickets for Wicked (April 27th I think, it's on a Tuesday) because one of my friends really wants to go. I'm interested to see if she shows up.

This does remind me a Laura Benanti though for some reason.

(formerly bronte604) "You really just love money and power and capitalism? You know they're never going to love you back." "Things happen for the best...I don't even believe that myself."
#36

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Laura Benanti is the reason for my fervor...not that anyone asked...but there you go...On my fourth trip to new york, we went to see the Into the Woods revival the Saturday evening before the tonys...like the day before...this whole sore spot began when I opened the playbill and was showered with understudy notices. Jack was out, Little Red was out, Cinderella was out which meant Rapunzel was out because she covered Cinderella (which also meant Horse and Milky White were out...but really...i've gotten over this...sob). This is the NIGHT before the Tonys. And yet, the entire cast was there at the Tony performance...which I watched with anger and frustration and liquor in my hotel room across the street. That said...I got to see Kate Reinders and Chad Kimball who i found to be better than the fools who are on the album. It just seems irresponsible.

Report back on if Kristin is there and what you thought...I think she's great and frankly irreplacable...except by a bleating sheep.

Kevin
Jesus saves. I spend.
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No, its not a cop out. And no, I did not "attack" you or your opinion. Just because my opinions may differ from yours does not mean I was attacking them. But clearly if you think being on Broadway is as easy as you think it is you've been misinformed ... because, well it just isn't. Just because its not a "regular" job does not mean performers don't work as hard if not harder then their blue collared friends! I personally am not going to lose any sleep over who replaces Kristin or not. Tons of actors and actresses have had roles tailor made for them and then have later been replaced ( by several other performers). This won't be the first and only time. Sometimes the replacements are better then the originals. Give Carolee Carmillo a blonde wig and maybe she could play Glinda. And whoever suggest Laura Benanti..I think she'd be a great choice too. Heck, I think even Kelly Clarkson would make an interesting Glinda!
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"Why does she go to LA so often?"
I don't know this for 100% but I'm pretty certain that Kristin is making a movie (Asphalt Beach) or something..she has probably had to fly out to meet w/producers, casting directors etc. Plus, let's be honest LA is where the money is and I have heard many a broadway performer(not all) talk about how they would love to do a t.v. show or movie, especially as they get older because of the stability. It seems to me as if Kristin is aspiring to bigger and better things beyond Broadway.
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Here we go again. And when was it? JRB__actor, correct me -- only January we were on the Miss Superwoman Donna Murphy Is Missing rant. Like the split in the country on just about everything else, this matter will never be resolved to reach a consensus.

But once again, these defensive posts about the hellish, demanding lifestyle of the working broadway actor are among my favorites. Oh, the drudgery! The only time my broadway actor pals bitch about a gig is when they don't have one. 'Know what's hard on an actor? Unemployment. Though requiring discipline and focus, a long run is what a working NY-based actor's career is all about. Germs may be the enemy, but just doing the show is not.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
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Umm, I just want to say that I broke my foot and I'm performing with my walker! I have an understudy and I work for free and God knows I have no fans! so noone would be dissappointed.. but me, COMMITMENT people!

I just hope when I go back to Broadway I get to see Laura Bell Bundy!!, probably I will, right?
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Um, she was at the performance March 19, Friday night. I saw her there. And I chatted with her before the show for a few minutes. You could tell she was sick. She looked a little peaked.

Yeah, I'd love for her to be at the shows all the time. But hey, we don't know what goes on in people's lives.

And Idina sounded like she was straining a little that night. I just read somewhere she was out for the Sunday night show?

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Idina was out last night and the audience still screamed and hollered. Kristin was also gracious during bows and extended a bow to Eden.

As the lady sitting next to me said after the show: "I see now why Idina never calls out, she's scared that girl would steal the part."

Kristin was in top form.
Call it a regime change...
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****Sorry this post is so long, I do hope someone out there takes some time to read it though and give their own opinions***


"I don't know this for 100% but I'm pretty certain that Kristin is making a movie (Asphalt Beach) or something..she has probably had to fly out to meet w/producers, casting directors etc. Plus, let's be honest LA is where the money is and I have heard many a Broadway performer (not all) talk about how they would love to do a t.v. show or movie, especially as they get older because of the stability. It seems to me as if Kristin is aspiring to bigger and better things beyond Broadway."

This is only my opinion here but...

I definitely agree the fact that many performers use Broadway when want to get a t.v show or movie. About stability though, if a performer is talented enough they can get stability.

But, I think, that even if they have dreams of hitting it big in LA and somehow able to find work there...they must take into consideration the commitment they have made. I'm sorry but if Broadway WAS like the tv/film industry in LA, and actors such as Kristin and Laura Benanti only showed up for a percentage of the time they are supposed to be working...I believe they would be fired...is that a correct assumption?

Also, in my opinion, if actors are only using Broadway shows as a springboard to get the attention of movie/tv producers and then plan to jump ship...I don't think I would want to see them anyway. Unlike some other people, I don't think that Broadway is a step down. I think if actors' are about performing and their craft and not $, then it can make their performance all the better. Maybe I'm crazy but I think actors should have a passion for the work they are doing, whether it be a show, movie or feature film. I'm not saying Kristin lacks this passion, but you would think an actor who absolutely loves their job would want to perform as much as possible.

A good number of actors who began their careers on Broadway, then moved on to bigger things....but don't seem to forget how they got their start. There ARE very successful actors out there who truly crave the challenge of performing on the stage. John Lithgow, Matthew Broderick, Glenn Close, Kathleen Turner, Stanley Tucci, Cynthia Nixon, Eric McCormack, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Helen Hunt...the list goes on.

Plus, many an actor has said they would love the chance to perform on Broadway. Julianne Moore and Nicole Kidman two good examples. They have both said they would love to perform on Broadway but because of the amount of time and energy involved in the show, they are holding off because they both have young children and they want to be as involved with then as much as possible with them. Performing in a show 6 days a week would make that difficult.

Also, what about Sally Field? She has two Oscars and two Emmy awards, but it was AFTER her film and tv success, she made her debut on Broadway in 2002. Plus, Megan Mullally, very sucessful in tvm but started in H2$ and Grease. I believe I heard quite a few times that she wants to return to the stage? In fact, she was signed to perform in an Actors' Fund "Funny Girl" benefit but had to back out. The benefit was supposed to be during a short break of "Will and Grace", but NBC changed their schedule, so the break was a week earlier than originally planned. She actually tried to take that day off so she could go to NYC, perform and then fly back for taping but NBC refused permission. So, because of her contract, she had no choice. (this is not a rumor, I heard it straight from Megan's mouth).

These are people who are not interested in money and do not view theatre as a step down!

It has to do with perfecting their craft. Live theatre is one of the most difficult genres and real actors love to challenge themselves.

Am I making any sense at all or have I truly lost my mind?
(formerly bronte604) "You really just love money and power and capitalism? You know they're never going to love you back." "Things happen for the best...I don't even believe that myself."
#49

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Broadway is 'legit'. What I've found instead is people doing TV and movies to pay the bills while trying to break on Broadway. Anyway, thats that.

I wanted to comment on the whole Kristin being sick thing. I'm a singer too. I belt fairly well, and am also a lyric coloratura soprano. I lucked out and I love singing. Here;s the thing. I also have chronic bronchitis. People, let me tell you, YOU CANNOT SING SOPRANO WHEN YOU ARE REALLY SICK. It's really not possible in any way. Well, maybe it is, for some. But for most of us humans, of which Kristin is a human, it tough to sing such a vocally demanding soprano role when sick. I think belting is easier when sick, but thats just me. So serioulsy, give the girl a break.
Even better, if you can hit a "High G" w/ a throat infection or bronchitis, tell me, and I will change my thoughts. And thats all I have to say!
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