Hamilton spoilers

[Alex M]

Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:29pm

Just a question do you think it would be rude to spoil the plot of Hamilton for people that have to seen it... i mean its based on history that we have all learned about in school.



Updated On: 3/28/15 at 11:29 PM

[Kad]

Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:30pm

No. That would be like "spoiling" 1776.

[Alex M]

Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:32pm

hahaha exactly

[gypsy101]

Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:47pm

Doesn't someone die in a duel?

[Alex M]

Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:50pm

yes

[gypsy101]

Posted: 3/28/15 at 11:53pm

who?

[Alex M]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 12:03am

Alexander Hamilton himself in a duel with Aaron Burr

[nicnyc]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 12:08am

Hamilton's son, Philip, also dies in a duel.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 1:19am

Gypsy, I would ask if you're serious, except I know you are. Sigh.

Don't most people know Hamilton was killed by Burr? Don't they teach that in schools? I certainly learned it in school.

[Alex M]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 1:22am

I dont think they teach it anymore cuz my friend got mad and said i "ruined" the show by saying that hamilton died at the end.

[Boq101]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 2:46am

They totally still teach it, unless your friend went to school in Texas in which case Jesus on a T-Rex killed Hamilton.

[Lousy]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 3:02am

It could be considered spoilers for people who are from outside of America that are visiting and seeing Hamilton. I know that I for sure didn't hear about Alexander Hamilton before I found out about this piece (American history is very rarely taught outside of the country, especially on the other side of the world).

Still, I think any piece based off of historical material is fair game. If anyone gets annoyed about it, it's a bit silly.

[After Eight]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 8:02am

"Don't they teach that in schools?"

I shudder to think of what they're actually teaching in schools.

Whatever it is, our young people are being seriously shortchanged. It's sad --- and appalling.

[JustBe23]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 8:51am

I mean, I think telling them that Hamilton gets shot is fine, but don't reveal anything about the Schuyler plot or the actual sequence of events. Let them be surprised, very little about Hamilton's life is actually taught in schools.

[ahhrealmonsters]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 9:31am

In the opening number, Burr says he shot Hamilton...

[jnb9872]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 10:02am

To After Eight,

As I am undoubtedly one of your "young people," it might hearten you to know my (public) HS history class spent a whole week discussing the debate between Hamiltonian, urban, centralized economics and Jeffersonian, rural, agrarian economics. The backgrounds of each man's governing philosophy, the policy differences, the resulting course of history and who's influence is seen where today.

Whatever it was you learned when you were young that taught you to be so arrogant and judgmental, and to cast aspersions on entire generations without batting an eye, I am glad that was expunged from my education at least. I certainly know many elders who are wise and considerate, and wouldn't discredit their entire generation because one of theirs lacks the latter.

[skies]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 10:17am

Really it's the most famous duel in American history; actually it stands out because as far as I know it's the only known duel in American History.

It's like a play about Lincoln, we all know the ending.

[hopefulundertone]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 11:26am

Like people have said, the ending isn't a spoiler because that's the thing that most people know about Hamilton anyway. But there are a few parts where I was surprised by some of what happened because we aren't taught too much about his personal life in school also it's been a few years since.... But yeah the ending can't be spoiled because we all know it. But there are some subplots that should remain unknown until someone sees it, I think. But its not the end of the world because even if you know the general plot it's so damn good it shouldn't matter.

[ZannaDo]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 11:42am

I get that schools outside the US (reasonably) don't teach this kind of US History, we sure don't learn enough about world history in our schools. But for people who graduated high school or college not to have at least a cursory knowledge of Hamilton's life, seeing as he was the first Secretary of the Treasury and we're still dealing with the ramifications of his financial systems today...yeah, that's not good. Go read a book.

Updated On: 3/29/15 at 11:42 AM

[Kad]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 12:17pm

The rift between Jeffersonian and Hamiltonian school of thought in regards to the government also continues to inform US political discussion. It, in many ways, can be summed up as "small central government" vs. "big central government."

[Charley Kringas Inc]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 12:35pm

It's not a spoiler to say Hamilton dies in a duel, but I can't imagine being shocked that most people would probably forget or never learn about the minutae of Hamilton's life that the show probably deals with.

[gypsy101]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 1:51pm

i was obviously being hilarious, because you can't spoil history. "Real life doesn't have spoilers."

[After Eight]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 8:24pm

Jnb,

I don't discredit today's young people. I feel sorry for them. They are being shortchanged by their so-called educators. Perhaps you've read articles about today's college graduates' lacking the basic knowledge and skills necessary to succeed in jobs.

Something is very wrong here.

[oncemorewithfeeling2]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 9:41pm

I can only speak for the state I live in and the content I teach (I'm a middle school social studies teacher), but political conflict in early America is a topic we must teach in eighth grade US history. Period. It's covered on the state test given yearly to 8th and 11th grade students. It's not considered a topic that is optional.

Political conflict is taught with Hamiltonian vs Jeffersonian politics as the framework. Students know who Hamilton is and analysis of state test results--which my district requires us to do--shows that students do and are learning this.

I'm passionate about education. I quit a career acting and dancing to teach. I've found that those who are most critical about the faults of teachers are those who aren't doing anything to change the situation.

[After Eight]

Posted: 3/29/15 at 9:45pm

"I've found that those who are most critical about the faults of teachers are those who aren't doing anything to change the situation."

What situation are you referring to?

And why should that situation be in need of change?