Hello Dolly or Mean Girls — Page 2

UncleCharlie said: "RicardoMagon said: ""It's pretty clear the only thing you're willing to actually hear is the echo of your own words."

Right cause I can afford to see both Bette and Bernadette. LOL"

I guess you're not aspoor as you made yourself out to be. Despite all that whining about Scott Rudin making Bette inaccessible to people like you, you can afford a ticket to see herafter all and still have enough money left over to see Bernadette too. I'm overjoyedfor yoursudden and new found wealth."

That was obviously sarcasm. Of course I can't afford to see them both. I can't afford to see one of them. Haha. But the people who did tell me that Bernadette was better said Bernadette seemed to be playing the character, and Bette seemed to just be playing herself. They also said Bernadette's emotional moments in the show seemed more genuine.

RicardoMagon said: "UncleCharlie said: "RicardoMagon said: ""It's pretty clear the only thing you're willing to actually hear is the echo of your own words."

Right cause I can afford to see both Bette and Bernadette. LOL"

I guess you're not aspoor as you made yourself out to be. Despite all that whining about Scott Rudin making Bette inaccessible to people like you, you can afford a ticket to see herafter all and still have enough money left over to see Bernadette too. I'm overjoyedfor yoursudden and new found wealth."

That was obviously sarcasm. Of course I can't afford to see them both. I can't afford to see one of them. Haha. But the people who did tell me that Bernadette was better said Bernadette seemed to be playing the character, and Bette seemed to just be playing herself. They also said Bernadette's emotional moments in the show seemed more genuine."

Oh girl. You are such a amateur pot stirrer.

Updated On: 5/26/18 at 11:06 AM

I'm actually male. If you don't like the opinion then take it up with the people who said it. The person who started this topic asked a question and I answered. Sue me.

Papi2013 said: "RicardoMagon said: "UncleCharlie said: "RicardoMagon said: ""It's pretty clear the only thing you're willing to actually hear is the echo of your own words."

Right cause I can afford to see both Bette and Bernadette. LOL"

I guess you're not aspoor as you made yourself out to be. Despite all that whining about Scott Rudin making Bette inaccessible to people like you, you can afford a ticket to see herafter all and still have enough money left over to see Bernadette too. I'm overjoyedfor yoursudden and new found wealth."

That was obviously sarcasm. Of course I can't afford to see them both. I can't afford to see one of them. Haha. But the people who did tell me that Bernadette was better said Bernadette seemed to be playing the character, and Bette seemed to just be playing herself. They also said Bernadette's emotional moments in the show seemed more genuine."

Oh girl. You are such a amateur pot stirrer."

I haven't seen Bernadette, there is no way I could sit through the show again, but Midler did just play Midler. There was no characterisation there what so ever.

BWAY Baby2 said: "Of course Bette plays herself- all the great stars have personas that they play- especially the Divine Miss M- one of the classic entertainers of all time- up there with all the greats. Streisand always plays Streisand- John Wayne played John Wayne- Hepburn played....well, you get the picture. I loved Bette in Dolly- and expected her infuse her own persona into the role- which she did. Bernadette plays it, from what I hear, more as an acting role and stays truer to the classic Dolly characterization- so be it- both are valid choices- but let;s face it- a huge musical comedy star like Bette Midler is going to bust the box office- and of course, she did- and she will do it again soon."

That's all well and good and I agree to a certain extent, only I didn't pay to see that I paid to see her play a character, something that she failed to do.

It does boil down to your point really though I guess. If you paid to see Bette Midler you'd have walked away happy. If you paid to see Hello Dolly you'd have been disappointed. I walked away disappointed. I also didn't like the show itself either so I walked away double disappointed.

I'm not saying either thing were 'bad' as such, just that 'I' didn't like them.

Your problem was people putting Bette in second place because of the perception she was playing herself. It has nothing to do with who or what said it, you have a problem with the actual perception of that idea. You're arguing that an actress playing herself in this role shouldn't be negated or penalized for doing so and that's completely fine. But that's not the topic. I answered the OP's question based on the word of mouth of people I know who have seen the show. Whether rightfully or wrongfully, you can make that decision. But don't debase the argument by calling people names when the issue you have is something out of my control.

Updated On: 5/26/18 at 11:54 AM

RicardoMagon said: "Your problem was people putting Bette in second place because of the perception she was playing herself. It has nothing to do with who or what said it, you have a problem with the actual perception of that idea. You're arguing that an actress playing herself in this role shouldn't be negated or penalized for doing so and that's completely fine. But that's not the topic. I answered the OP's question based on the word of mouth of people I know who have seen the show. Whether rightfully or wrongfully, you can make that decision. But don't debase the argument by calling people names when the issue you have is something out of my control."

I don't post that much, but I had to this time. Please shut up for once. You're getting into stupid fights with people. Use your time on something more productive honestly. It's so annoying to open a thread and see half of it is just arguments with you in the center.

And to the OP, go see Dolly!. Mean Girls is my guilty pleasures, but Dolly! is one of the best things I have seen in years. I've seen all three Dollys, and I preferred Bernadette and Donna over Bette (I think because I just love the two of them, so I'm biased), but the shear moments of seeing Bette onstage and having the audience eat out of the palm of her hand made me fall in love with the show. So if you get a chance to see it with Bette, do it, but if you just want to see the show and pay a little less, then see it with Bernadette. But Bette will be an experience you will remember for years to come.