How Long Might The Strike Last?- Page 4

[Mr. Tuttle]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 6:57pm

The strike will ruin Broadway and all the the shows will go non-Equity/non-union.

So nobody will work.

Oh..wait. IATSE lets their union employees work non-union shows. That's right...remember the musicians strike? All those union actors and musicians who couldn't work. They can't take non-union work. Yet..our IATSE friends can have it both ways.

Let's give them a round of applause!

[MovieGuy1031]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 8:09pm

I stopped holding my breath for the strike to end by the coming weekend and snatched up a ticket for Mauritius this Saturday from tdf.

If the strike ends - GREAT! I'm only out $30.

But if not, meh, i'm still seeing a great show.

[americanboy99]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 8:15pm

DIDN'T YOU HEAR?

THE STRIKE IS GOING TO GO ON FOREVER.

THE CITY OF NEW YORK JUST DECLARED THE GREAT WHITE WAY A THING OF THE PAST. IT IS NO LONGER EXISTENT.

"It's a tragedy, but I'm happy. Now I don't feel obligated to write anything else. You see, I've tried, but those attempts just bounced. Now I can sleep peacefully without another SWEENEY TODD fan irking me in hopes for a sequel. I mean, be serious! THE GHOST OF MRS. LOVETT'S REVENGE? Although, I could think of a pretty witty opening number," says Stephen Sondheim in an interview yesterday.

Claire Danes was spotted crying on W 51st, coaxed by Marin Mazzie, who was equally as mad because SHE'LL NEVER WIN A TONY.

It's a tragedy, if you ask me. But, then again, who's asking?

Updated On: 11/12/07 at 08:15 PM

[UnionMade]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 8:16pm

Tut,
If Equity and 802 have a problem with their employment options during a work action then they need to take it up with their unions.

[Mr. Tuttle]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 9:52pm

Union Made,

Your so right. Thanks for that bit of info.

It's so good that the actors are now out of work because they support a union that didn't support the cause during the last strike. While every other union had issues with non-Equity tours, IATSE told their union members to go for it...grab as much cash in your grubby hands as possible.

Of course, when they're in trouble, they expect everyone to bow to them.

There's no I (ATSE) in TEAM. It's all for one and one for....oh wait.

Updated On: 11/12/07 at 09:52 PM

[rcrcr]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:50pm

I support the rights of both Local One and the League to collectively bargain for fair contract terms, and even for Local One to strike (or the League to lock out) should it ultimately be deemed necessary in the bargaining process.

But, considering the huge amounts of pain being inflicted on third parties (members of the other theatrical unions, audiences, and restaurant and tourism workers, to name a few), I have a big problem with the fact that no talks are taking place nor are any future talks being scheduled.

Both sides bear a responsibility for this.

Frankly, even if neither side can currently muster a single word to say to the other, it is my opinion that representatives for the two sides should still be sitting in a room right now, staring silently at one another until there is something to be said. At least projecting the appearance of making an effort to find a resolution. Anything less seems to me to be a rather blatant disregard for the countless others, neither members of the League nor Local One, that have been caught in the crossfire by this dispute.

[roadguy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 1:42am

Once again Mr Tuttle,

An ignorant post from an ignorant person.. IATSE lets their members do non union work?? It's in our Constitution and By-Laws saying we can NOT...

Again, being the ignorant POS that you are.. Read a little before posting.. Think back to 2001.. A company sent out a tour of Sound of Music.. who was the star?? AEA Barry Williams.. it was a non-eq tour... Rumor was he was making 5 figures PER WEEK.. what did equity fine him for that?? a weeks pay?? WOOO HOOOO

Another company sent out a tour of Miss Saigon, also non-eq.. Funny how looking thru the cast list of that tour there were members of the cast that i recognized who were also on Equity First/Second National tours of the same show...

PLEASE be informed before posting your most stupid remarks.

[roadguy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 1:48am

Once again Tuttle's ignorant mind speaks again....
IATSE has supported AEA on many work stopages.. I told you this in a post the other day.. 5-6 years ago in Baltimore, 4 years ago in Boston.. READ A LITTLE BIT BEFORE POSTING

Becuase a tour is non-Equity doesn't mean a tour isn't IATSE. I won't work without a union contract, but because the producers and AEA couldn't get a contract is not my concern or business. I'm not an AEA member than can fight for that.. But when AEA sets up a picket line I don't cross and in Baltimore and Boston i DID NOT CROSS!!! Did Local One go to work when the Musicians struck 3 years ago?? Don't think so... Once again, please read a bit on what you claim to be an expert on.. You really are wasting gigs on space with your useless uninformative posts...

It's so good that the actors are now out of work because they support a union that didn't support the cause during the last strike. While every other union had issues with non-Equity tours, IATSE told their union members to go for it...grab as much cash in your grubby hands as possible.

Of course, when they're in trouble, they expect everyone to bow to them.

There's no I (ATSE) in TEAM. It's all for one and one for....oh wait.

[keen on kean]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 10:09am

If the union was willing to bargain, they would take the Mayor's offer of a neutral location and fact finder. The League accepted the offer; the union did not. Whose good faith is in question? Refusing to even sit down and talk makes me less respectful of the union's positions, even the reasonable ones.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 10:19am

I really think that if both sides have anything of a brain they'll resolve this by Thanksgiving. The Producers will have lost more than 100+ million a show by then and I can't see the stagehands going without their rather large paychecks by then. Let's all pray that's its resolved by Thanksgiving!!!

[keen on kean]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 10:43am

ACL - I agree, but I think it would take a miracle for things to be anything like normal by next week.

[roadguy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 4:03pm

3 people to run a lighting board??

I find it funny that people can twist the fact that the League feels lighting, sound and projections can be run by one person. ANd these people turn that statement into 3 people to run one lighting board. Unreal how ignorant some posters are...

[NJluvstheatre]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 4:10pm

FYI- My email to the League today:

As a retired theatre professional and past Union member I want to write this email in support of your efforts.

For a long time I believed that many of the unions were getting “too full of themselves” with their ridiculous rules and demands. I am also a firm believer that the unions are slowly killing Broadway. It is hugely due to their archaic rules that the costs of mounting a production (especially a musical) on Broadway is so exorbitant. Thus, making for outrageously high ticket prices, thus making seeing a Broadway show unobtainable for many.

I am in strong support of your offer and ask that you stand your ground on these issues. The sad thing is by doing so this strike may go on for a very long time and, unfortunately, some shows may be forced to close. However, it is important that the Stage Hands Union (as well as other unions) finally realize that this is a different world and that it is time to change their archaic rules. Eventually, actors will get tired of the “lower strike pay”, as well as the musicians, etc. Eventually those unions will start putting pressure on Local One. But, only if the league stands their ground with this, does not bend and is in it for the long hall.

I support the Leagues efforts and hope that you continue to stand for what’s right, without compromise.

All the best and “break-a-leg” with this.

[roadguy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 4:26pm

NJluvstheatre,
It's the unions that are causing high ticket prices and are slowly killing broadway??

How is it that I work on tour under a similar contract to local one making about the same SALARY and the tour is doing just fine?? A tour requires more money for trucking, per diem, etc..
Funny how with more expenses, the tour i work on is making great money paying me and the actors the same as on broadway, yet the broadway folks charge more per ticket. We don't have $450 gold circle VIP nonsense tickets. Can you explain that please??



I am also a firm believer that the unions are slowly killing Broadway. It is hugely due to their archaic rules that the costs of mounting a production (especially a musical) on Broadway is so exorbitant. Thus, making for outrageously high ticket prices, thus making seeing a Broadway show unobtainable for many.

[GlindatheGood22]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 5:13pm

Today, the Post writes, and I quote, "...with none but the big three: The Lion King, Jersey Boys, and Wicked, likely to survive a strike that lasts more than a month."
Show of hands, who buys into that?
And, if it is true, then they all better get back to the table ASAP before three quarters of Broadway is closed for good.

[InfiniteTheaterFrenzy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 5:32pm

"Today, the Post writes, and I quote..."

Link?

[InfiniteTheaterFrenzy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 5:35pm

Btw, not trying to be snarky... I would just like to read the article, and for some reason can't find it on the Post's website...

[adamgreer]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 6:00pm

I can't wait to read Riedel's take on all of this business tomorrow.

[typecastme22]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 6:05pm

I was interested in reading it too.
Here it is....
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11132007/news/regionalnews/a_dramatic_paue_for_biz_993753.htm?page=0

[typecastme22]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 6:05pm

double post...sorry
Updated On: 11/13/07 at 06:05 PM

[GlindatheGood22]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 6:06pm

I just looked. I can't find it either. It was this big two page spread entitled DRAMATIC PAU$E FOR BIZ, if that helps.

[InfiniteTheaterFrenzy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 6:12pm

thanks, typecastme22. I appreciate it

Does anyone else find it weird that the prediction [of the strike potentially killing all but the "big 3" if it goes on for longer than a week] was buried in the center of the article? That, to me, signifies that it may not hold a lot of clout... if it was said by a top source with a lot of proof to back up the statement, it would be leading the article, wouldn't it? Opinions?

[GlindatheGood22]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 6:18pm

I'm just praying it's not true. Can you imagine something like Phantom closing because of a strike? Not to say that Phantom is better than any other show out there, because I've seen way better Broadway, but I mean it's come so far.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 6:34pm

It is going to get real ugly.

This is going to radically change the Broadway landscape.

[Bwayfan4]

Posted: 11/13/07 at 7:56pm

All I can say is the longer this lasts the more pissed off I get...come one people...let's get to talking aleady and resolve these issues!!!! Somebody HAS to be the "bigger person" and initiate talks...and the fact that nobody wants to use the mayor...hello...he's trying to HELP! Sorry but I keep thinking that the longer this lasts the more the union is going to screw themselves out of money, and come back to no job....

(this is just my opinion)