How did YAGMCB lose best revival?

[Steel Pier Fan]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:31pm

I don't understand Annie Get Your Gunhad good actors but was corny as hell. It was doing good while YAGMCB (which was a better revvial) was struggling. The Tonys say they like to help small shows. They gave Avenue Q best musical over Wicked (I'm not complaining). This doesn't make sense to me.

[chrisampm2]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:42pm

Maybe because YAGMCB is hard to pronounce.

More seriously, few say the Tonys like to help small shows. It ain't as if they meet and make a decision. Avenue Q is more the exception than the rule. The producers quotient supposedly like to vote for what will tour more successfully.

[CapnHook]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:42pm

And YAGMCB *ISN'T* corny as hell?

When did the Tony Awards EVER say that they like to help small shows?

Your arguments make no sense to me.

[Paul Bland4]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:51pm

Generally, the Tonys haven't been about merit for years.

A small show with a cast of nobodys like YAGMCB, as opposed to a beloved classic like AGYG with a star above the title is going to sell far less well on tour. In a very small nutshell, that's why.

Of course, it's wonderful for you to be a fan of YAGMCB; it's a great show. But in the big, brassy popularity contest that is the Tony Awards, the 'best' show doesn't always win. You yourself reference two shows that divided fans who were passionate about their particular favorite.

If you want to get an idea of what is likely to win (and if you have so little else going on in your life that you actually care), take a look at the shows that have historically won 'Best' Musical and the ones that have won 'Best' Score or Book. Score and Book have become the American Theatre Wing's apology awards to truly deserving shows that got screwed because they weren't mainstream enough to sell well in the Bible Belt.

Yes, there are exceptions to every rule, and I'm strictly expressing my opinion. But I have to wonder how much energy you've expended obsessing over YAGMCB's loss of the Best Musical Revival award to AGYG over the years, and what good you might have done in the world with the eneregies you've wasted.
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[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:51pm

WTF is YAGMCB?

[Paul Bland4]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:54pm

You're A Good Man, Charlie Brown

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:58pm

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Updated On: 4/12/11 at 11:58 PM

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:59pm

Could we just use the full title? It takes just as long to type YAGMCB as it does to type You're A Good Man Charlie Brown.

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:59pm

As much as I love THOROUGHLY MODERN MODERN, it says something when URINETOWN wins Best Score, Book and Direction, but MILLIE takes the big prize.

The same can be said for BILLY ELLIOT and NEXT TO NORMAL, but only with Best Score.

[bossbear062]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 12:13am

Then the same can't be said for Billy Elliot.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 12:25am

YAGMCB was an intimate show that was put in a big Broadway theater. It never got past the third row. Also, the new music didn't fit in with the old. All the innocence was lost because the actors played cartoons rather than people.

That's not to say that Bernadette Peters didn't stink as Annie. She was also playing a cartoon. It took Reba to come in and play the role like a normal human being for anyone to sit up and take notice.

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 12:59am

bossbear I'm sure if you took out the road voters, NEXT TO NORMAL would've won far more then Best Score, Actress and Orchestrations.

[chrisampm2]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 1:12am

I'm not sure about that at all. Billy Elliot's score was not as acclaimed as the rest of the production, but the show as a whole was just as well received - if not more so.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 5:51am

It's all OPINION. There is no fact.

Case in point: I absolutely hate the new version of Charlie Brown, I think it's horrid. I'm right. But that doesnt' make you liking it wrong as it's my opinion. That's all the voters do: vote with their opinion (and pocketbook, if they are producers.)

And really: why do you care years later?

[adamgreer]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 7:20am

Yeah, it seems odd to bring this up almost 12 years after the fact.

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 7:34am

Odd is normal here.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 7:41am

Touche.

[JMPlayer6]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 8:24am

Steel Pier, you joined this site to ask this out-of-the-blue question? Why? The answer to your question: It lost because something else won. Move on.

[Jon]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 10:42am

Steel Pier, Charlie Brown.... a Chenoweth fan?

[BroadwayBen]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 3:30pm

I saw both AGYG and YAGMCB, and YAGMCB was far better. It was wise, warm and the performances were magic. "ANNIE" was solid, but BP was wrong, and the production was flat. They should have fun.

[JP2]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 3:41pm

I always though HSHKLJ was better than ASPDPNC, even though ASPDPNC was based on ERTGF. But it wasn't nearly as bad as BVKDIUO.

[newintown]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 3:53pm

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[newintown]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 3:55pm

Didn't see the Annie Get Your Gun revival; saw the Charlie Brown revival and there wasn't much I liked about it - it was fake, plastic, and charmless; everything good about the piece had been killed.

[Steel Pier Fan]

Posted: 4/12/11 at 11:51pm

Jon, she is my favorite performer, I joined to ask about Steel Pier so I just picked that name off the top of my head. I never saw Steel Pier I just LOVE the score. :)

p.s. I just wanted to hear your thoughts, you don't have to be rude and tell me to get over it and stuff

[Eris0303]

Posted: 4/13/11 at 12:04am

You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown was my 20th birthday present & I loved every minute of it. And I have trouble believing that it was 12 years ago. I feel old.