How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Steel Pier Fan
Featured Actor Joined: 4/11/11
#1How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:31pmI don't understand Annie Get Your Gunhad good actors but was corny as hell. It was doing good while YAGMCB (which was a better revvial) was struggling. The Tonys say they like to help small shows. They gave Avenue Q best musical over Wicked (I'm not complaining). This doesn't make sense to me.
chrisampm2
Broadway Star Joined: 5/26/07
#2How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:42pm
Maybe because YAGMCB is hard to pronounce.
More seriously, few say the Tonys like to help small shows. It ain't as if they meet and make a decision. Avenue Q is more the exception than the rule. The producers quotient supposedly like to vote for what will tour more successfully.
#2How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:42pm
And YAGMCB *ISN'T* corny as hell?
When did the Tony Awards EVER say that they like to help small shows?
Your arguments make no sense to me.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#3How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:51pm
Generally, the Tonys haven't been about merit for years.
A small show with a cast of nobodys like YAGMCB, as opposed to a beloved classic like AGYG with a star above the title is going to sell far less well on tour. In a very small nutshell, that's why.
Of course, it's wonderful for you to be a fan of YAGMCB; it's a great show. But in the big, brassy popularity contest that is the Tony Awards, the 'best' show doesn't always win. You yourself reference two shows that divided fans who were passionate about their particular favorite.
If you want to get an idea of what is likely to win (and if you have so little else going on in your life that you actually care), take a look at the shows that have historically won 'Best' Musical and the ones that have won 'Best' Score or Book. Score and Book have become the American Theatre Wing's apology awards to truly deserving shows that got screwed because they weren't mainstream enough to sell well in the Bible Belt.
Yes, there are exceptions to every rule, and I'm strictly expressing my opinion. But I have to wonder how much energy you've expended obsessing over YAGMCB's loss of the Best Musical Revival award to AGYG over the years, and what good you might have done in the world with the eneregies you've wasted.
Updated On: 4/11/11 at 11:51 PM
#4How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:51pmWTF is YAGMCB?
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal
"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#6How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:58pm.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
Updated On: 4/12/11 at 11:58 PM
#7How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:59pmCould we just use the full title? It takes just as long to type YAGMCB as it does to type You're A Good Man Charlie Brown.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
#8How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/11/11 at 11:59pm
As much as I love THOROUGHLY MODERN MODERN, it says something when URINETOWN wins Best Score, Book and Direction, but MILLIE takes the big prize.
The same can be said for BILLY ELLIOT and NEXT TO NORMAL, but only with Best Score.
"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
bossbear062
Understudy Joined: 9/5/08
#9How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 12:13am
Then the same can't be said for Billy Elliot.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#10How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 12:25am
YAGMCB was an intimate show that was put in a big Broadway theater. It never got past the third row. Also, the new music didn't fit in with the old. All the innocence was lost because the actors played cartoons rather than people.
That's not to say that Bernadette Peters didn't stink as Annie. She was also playing a cartoon. It took Reba to come in and play the role like a normal human being for anyone to sit up and take notice.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#11How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 12:59ambossbear I'm sure if you took out the road voters, NEXT TO NORMAL would've won far more then Best Score, Actress and Orchestrations.
"Oh look at the time, three more intelligent plays just closed and THE ADDAMS FAMILY made another million dollars" -Jackie Hoffman, Broadway.com Audience Awards
chrisampm2
Broadway Star Joined: 5/26/07
#12How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 1:12amI'm not sure about that at all. Billy Elliot's score was not as acclaimed as the rest of the production, but the show as a whole was just as well received - if not more so.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#13How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 5:51am
It's all OPINION. There is no fact.
Case in point: I absolutely hate the new version of Charlie Brown, I think it's horrid. I'm right. But that doesnt' make you liking it wrong as it's my opinion. That's all the voters do: vote with their opinion (and pocketbook, if they are producers.)
And really: why do you care years later?
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#14How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 7:20amYeah, it seems odd to bring this up almost 12 years after the fact.
#17How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 8:24amSteel Pier, you joined this site to ask this out-of-the-blue question? Why? The answer to your question: It lost because something else won. Move on.
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#18How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 10:42amSteel Pier, Charlie Brown.... a Chenoweth fan?
BroadwayBen
Broadway Star Joined: 6/5/03
#19How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 3:30pmI saw both AGYG and YAGMCB, and YAGMCB was far better. It was wise, warm and the performances were magic. "ANNIE" was solid, but BP was wrong, and the production was flat. They should have fun.
JP2
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/2/07
#20How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 3:41pmI always though HSHKLJ was better than ASPDPNC, even though ASPDPNC was based on ERTGF. But it wasn't nearly as bad as BVKDIUO.
#22How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 3:55pmDidn't see the Annie Get Your Gun revival; saw the Charlie Brown revival and there wasn't much I liked about it - it was fake, plastic, and charmless; everything good about the piece had been killed.
Steel Pier Fan
Featured Actor Joined: 4/11/11
#23How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/12/11 at 11:51pm
Jon, she is my favorite performer, I joined to ask about Steel Pier so I just picked that name off the top of my head. I never saw Steel Pier I just LOVE the score. :)
p.s. I just wanted to hear your thoughts, you don't have to be rude and tell me to get over it and stuff
#24How did YAGMCB lose best revival?
Posted: 4/13/11 at 12:04amYou're a Good Man, Charlie Brown was my 20th birthday present & I loved every minute of it. And I have trouble believing that it was 12 years ago. I feel old.
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