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I think most people here understand disappointment. A lot of people have posted reasons people should not be disappointed, some going so far as to say such disappointment is, for one reason or another, misguided. What people have been severely criticized for is something else entirely-the ridiculous outrage that has been expressed by some (but not all) of the disappointees and, in particular, the sense of entitlement in which that outrage is cloaked. It is that which engenders the justifiably strident criticism of that notion (a notion that permeates some quarters in here repeatedly).

I agree. Being disappointed, is understandable. Trying to change tix is understandable. It's the whining about the production being underhanded about it and demanding they do the "right" thing is what has gotten all the attention. Oh. And attacking those explaining that.

I don't think many people on here are willing to buy my tickets at the moment. They're for March 2016 and I'd be selling them for what I paid - $167 each. I don't think anyone on stub hub will buy them yet either - being that it's for a performance that isn't until March AND, being that Lin is now not going to be there. I honestly think it will be a hard sell. I'll most likely end up going after all but, getting rid of these tickets won't be so easy if no one's willing to buy and /or the production won't take them back. People say they're willing to buy on here, but, I think they're willing to buy if the price is right and if it's early on in the run.

I think if people were in the same situation as us who have tickets for that date, they would feel similarly. I don't see many posts on here where people have tickets for a performance Lin is out that are happy about it. There's maybe one or two who are happy about having tickets for a performance Lin is out.

I do not believe the production held this information purposefully but, it would be nice if they honored exchanges or at least gave people a refund. I haven't seen it, but, being able to see the creator of his own show in his show has got to be something pretty special and I'd be sad to miss it.

Hairspray0901, how many tickets do you have?

See what everyone could learn? The above poster took care of the problem himself. No more problem.

Hairspray - have you even considered the possibility that Lin might not stay with the show through March? And if he does, the alternate schedule cod change by then. Several times, too.

" Hairspray - have you even considered the possibility that Lin might not stay with the show through March? And if he does, the alternate schedule cod change by then. Several times, too. "

Valid point. Thanks for bringing that up.

I don't think anybody is begrudging people being disappointed? But there's a difference between being bummed out and talking about how you've been wronged and the entire thing was "shady". Because it wasn't. They literally have 0 obligation to warn people about this beyond providing the requisite signs + slips the day of the performance. This was a courtesy.

So none of the complainers want to sell their tickets for face value?

"When a show is suggesting they are providing a certain level of service but can't due to no fault of the consumer, why should the consumer suffer?"

They're providing the exact same level of service. It's just being provided by a different person.

"Consumers should be entitled to see the performance that were advertised"

I couldn't agree more. People spend thousands of dollars coming to New York to see specific shows with certain people in them. It's very disappointing when that person is out. However, he is letting people know ahead of time exactly when he won't be performing. Sure, it's a little late for people who already bought tickets for those dates, but I'm sure they were figuring out the schedule first and didn't mean to screw anyone over.

And that is my point - they make that absolutely clear up front because they are disadvantaged financially any other way. I would say that in such a situation they haven't necessarily 'deceived' me (unless they knew in advance), but I would actually say they have 'wronged' me because they aren't providing the service that they said they would.

Updated On: 7/8/15 at 06:57 PM

Similar to the previous discussion, that kind of comment is of course just an "asterix"-type disclaimer they would use to cover themselves in case it does happen because they don't want to lose revenue. But let's not pretend that they are not selling the specific cast, particularly the stars. Otherwise, why even announce the cast or put it on their website*? They should do it theme park style where you really are just turning up for the show and don't even know who the cast are.

* Interestingly, I don't think Hamilton even have the cast on their website at the moment. So this specific situation is not typical. But closer to performances I'm sure we'll see advertisements of the cast on their website.

Updated On: 7/8/15 at 07:16 PM

Golbinau, You clearly understand that producers have no obligations here, and intellectually you obviously know you haven't been deceived or misled when you don't get something that you were not promised in the first place. So at bottom, this gets back to what I said earlier-disappointment.

It is the essence of live theatre (or any live performance) that no two audiences are going to see the same show. That's what makes theatre exciting. And with extremely limited exceptions no producer ever guarantees anything other than that the show will be performed approximately at the time listed on the ticket. Because they can't. Let's get this straight: you are not entitled to a damn thing other than that. You may think you are, and that is exactly the sensibility many of us are criticizing.

Now the other thing I have noticed is that most of the people complaining on here are people who have not seen the show. And so it is perhaps understandable, in this star-obsessed world we live in, that people think they are missing something and getting something less if they do not see the "star." they are not. The reason this is the hottest ticket in years (maybe ever) is NOT because of LMM's performance. It just isn't. He doesn't think it is; the overwhelming majority of the people who have seen it don't think it is; because it isn't. Frankly, selling tickets because he is not in it is just insane.