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John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?

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#1John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:41pm

https://www.broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=28063

And the obvious choice is:

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BARNUM!


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

Mattbrain
#2re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:51pm

John, Barnum!!!! For the love of God, pick Barnum!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Weez
#2re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:55pm

For the love of god, 'Barnum'! Now, I'm as big a Barrowman fan as any of us here (possibly slightly bigger than most, but that's with reference to my CD collection rather than physique :P), but if he goes anywhere NEAR 'Phantom 2', then I ain't speaking to 'im anymore. :P


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#3re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:56pm

John, please, step away from PHANTOM 2.


"It's Phantom meets Hamlet... Phamlet!"

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WithoutATrace
#4re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:58pm

Another vote here for BARNUM.

PHANTOM 2 will either close on the road, or flop when it gets to NYC (if history repeats itself).

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#5re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:58pm

Barnum! Barnum! This phantom sequel reeks of disaster!


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Mattbrain
#6re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 1:10pm

To the tune of Garlic from Dance of the Vampires:

Barnum! Barnum!
The show that you should choose
The Phantom sequel
Stinks worse than doggy poo
The composer's got an ego
That's gotten his ass sued
With Phantom, you'll be screwed
With Phantom, you'll be screwed


Butters, go buy World of Warcraft, install it on your computer, and join the online sensation before we all murder you. --Cartman: South Park ATTENTION FANS: I will be played by James Barbour in the upcoming musical, "BroadwayWorld: The Musical."

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WithoutATrace
#7re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 1:12pm

Mattbrain, that was brilliant! re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?

Mattbrain
#8re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 1:14pm

Thank you!


Butters, go buy World of Warcraft, install it on your computer, and join the online sensation before we all murder you. --Cartman: South Park ATTENTION FANS: I will be played by James Barbour in the upcoming musical, "BroadwayWorld: The Musical."

bwaybabe2
#9re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 9:13pm

Any show that has enjoyed a STRONG original version, should never have a sequel...the chances that anything to follow will be of equal or better quality, are very slim to none. Some people might go see it, since they loved the original. But when word spreads that there's no comparison (ie.: it's a flop), there goes the investment!
Producers need to start looking at this fact, as time has proven this to be very true. Movies can get away with this, but the stage needs to be more careful, as there are more moviegoers than theatre patrons.
A great original should be LEFT ALONE!
My vote is also for Barnum, of course re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?

BTW, I heard they are having a production of Barnum at Sarasota Asolo Rep Theatre...they have a strong theater base over there (lots of financial support from the locals, I hear) with some very unusually outstanding work being done, even by the FSU student productions. Might be worth checking out, if travelling to Florida.

roquat
#10re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 9:33pm

Yes, PHANTOM's time is past...but would I be hanged if I suggest BARNUM is not really that good, either? It's SO relentlessly cheerful, and it whitewashes P.T. Barnum's story even more than those movie bios of composers Hollywood used to churn out...


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bwaybabe2
#11re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 9:36pm

roquat, I will make it a point to learn a bit more about Barnum, but I've heard good things so far (?)

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#12re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 10:18pm

How in heaven's name is that even a choice? It doesn't even deserve five seconds' thought. "Barnum," by all means! It's a wonderful show. But even if it were only moderately good, it would still be better than any misguided attempt at a "Phantom" sequel.

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#13re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 10:21pm

In the name of all that is holy BARNUM!


Oh, and I almost forgot to mention...I'm the good cop, he's the bad cop.

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Scarywarhol
#14re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 10:23pm

Jesus Christ, is there even a choice?

Although I am fascinated by the type of disaster that Phantom 2 will be. I can't wait to see it.

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#15re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 10:36pm

Add another vote for Barnum here...

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#16re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 10:41pm

Barnum.

[still waiting for someone to try and piece together a Phantom argument]

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roseaddams
#17re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 11:07pm

BARNUM. Please? I'm not the biggest fan of John Barrowman, but nobody deserves Phantom 2: The Empire Strikes Back.


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insertclevernamehere
#18re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/17/08 at 11:10pm

If Barrowman does Barnum and it's a turkey, then that would be sad and he'd brush off his shoulders and move on. But Phantom 2 seems that it could be a career killer.


Oh, and I almost forgot to mention...I'm the good cop, he's the bad cop.

pli1018
#19re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/18/08 at 12:08am

As much as I LOATHE Barnum (which is a whole lot), he should pick that over Phantom 2. The idea of a sequel just spells flop.

puppetman2
#20re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/18/08 at 1:01am

BARNUM

Anyone who has read the book that Phantom 2 will be based on knows it will stink more than a large cess pool.


It Sucks To Be Me

bwaybabe2
#21re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/18/08 at 1:10am

insert..."career killer", indeed!
MHOA (the A is for "also")

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#22re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/18/08 at 3:46am

Barnum

I think ALW must believe "There's a Sucker Born Every Minute," and each and every one will come to see his Phantom 2.

masb19872
#23re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/18/08 at 3:49am

Barnum! He definitely can do better than Phantom 2.

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#24re: John Barrowman: BARNUM or PHANTOM 2?
Posted: 5/18/08 at 4:18am

The book to Barnum isn't that great but I've always enjoyed the score and I think John would be wonderful with "There's a Sucker Born Every Minute", "I Like Your Style", "Colors of My Life" and the rest of the songs in the show.

I would DEFINITELY want to see him in Barnum. Too bad we can't send the link to this thread to him.


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