Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
1) Not saying you are gay...it was the use of a universal "you".
2) There are, in fact, a number of studies on why people have stayed in the closet. Every study links staying in the closet to psychological trauma. You can go to the APA website for more info.
3) Beyond that, talk to anyone who has come out...they will all tell you that staying in the closet is homophobic. Seriously. Ask.
4) Again, I have responses to all of your pervious responses, and I'll post them if you are interested.
John is a great role model and is truly the example of good things happening to good people
I...ulgh...said what I needed to, we all have individual opinions and I respect all, no reason for me to drag it out.
that all aside, yaay for the Johnny love. He seems like such a sweet person and always speaks from the heart.
I think John is just a terrific guy and courageous to be out and be an actor.
Three cheers all around for all out performers and their allies everywhere!
HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY! HUZZAH!
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/8/04
Every thread about homosexuality ends in a fight because of misunderstandings and people unable to accept others' opinions.
touchme IS making broad generalizations...
...But Fosse does seem to be quite the negative person in all his posts I've been reading and seems to enjoy starting conflict. The problem is, he argues from one side without hearing out anyone else.
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But good for Tartie...he does interview well.
Sorry, said I was done, but for some reason I missed some of the things from your earlier post.
To my knowledge, no one has come out in baseball while currently playing, they did so after retiring. I think one was a coach who was "let go" after the season, might have even been a coach in the minors for a team. The other guy was being considered for coaching and front office positions, but like I said, he never worked in the sport again after coming out.
What about the army's don't ask, don't tell policy where essentially you cannot be in the army if you come out.
And just b/c I was discussing and writing for my philisophy class how nothing is absolute, etc, I'm in a disproving mood. You said truth is always the better option. I agree for the most part, but it's just important to remember there are exceptions to everything. I mean, if I have a friend who I really worry is suicidal, she asks me something and I know the truth would really upset her and contribute to a probable suicide attempt, then I'm lying. Now's not the time for the truth. That's why you can't make broad generalizations.
Oh, and I forgot my friend's story about that. Like I said in my first post, living here, I see lots of acceptance, but learned that's not so in all places. One of my college friends who is gay is from Ohio--he said his high school sometimes had assemblies that might as well have been a mass. He did come out, and the principal let him know that he may not want to let it be too well-known, because if others in the school do things to him or hurt him in any way b/c of his sexuality, the principal said he wouldn't stop them or do anything about it. And I saw at GW he was quite proud of his orientation, definitely detected no self-loathing.
You underestimate some people in our world. Everyone has different experiences and to make a statement about everyone all together isn't fair. Suppose a teen struggling with coming out saw a gay man beaten in the street for being gay? Would you really fault him for not coming out?
I have all the respect and admiration for those who are proud of who they are and let it be known. They really are great role models. But I just think it's ignorant to assume you know enough about an individual's experiences to say why they do something and that it's wrong.
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