Josh Grisetti has talked to God?

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/BWW-Interview-Josh-Grisetti-the-SOMETHING-ROTTEN-Star-Encounters-the-Diety-20160927

Huh. Cool.

I make a point of never talking religion or politics in public forums, but I will say this- I hope no one mocks or thinks any less of Mr. Grisetti because of this book. Just as theists are not expected to push their beliefs on others, so must non-believers be held to that same standard of respect.

Peace out.

Ado Annie D'Ysquith said: "I make a point of never talking religion or politics in public forums, but I will say this- I hope no one mocks or thinks any less of Mr. Grisetti because of this book. Just as theists are not expected to push their beliefs on others, so must non-believers be held to that same standard of respect.

Peace out.



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Even if atheists don't impose the reality/truth of the world on others, you will have to accept that hearing anyone believe things that aren't true (which, in many cases also has negative consequences for humanity) has to lead to some kind of reaction or thought about that person's 'beliefs' from the perspective of someone who knows the reality of the world is different from what they are suggesting.

Updated On: 9/28/16 at 05:12 PM

I had a encounter with a saint when I six and my mom had a encounter with the Virgin Mary, so anything is possible

I think that we all need to live and let live, but I agree that the religious community is not really a positive group of people. They could be, but they choose to either be confrontational or passive agressive as opposed to letting other people live their damn lives. They choose to be all up in women's vaginas and gay people's bedrooms, and yet they claim to be a loving group of people when they're probably the most hateful people on the planet. I try to not judge the way in which these people live, but it's hard when they're constantly telling you that they don't approve of your life. Also, they're probably one of the only groups of people who can openly spew hate speech and call it freedom of speech. So, I don't particularly sympathize with this group, and also, he should probably go to a doctor if he's hearing voices. He's probably a kind person though and I hope that he enjoys his faith.

Grisetti is the first to admit all of this may have been a hallucination. Also, he was an agnostic before his experience. He's not much of a church-Goer these days.

Updated On: 9/28/16 at 08:01 PM

qolbinau said: "It makes no sense that religious beliefs are compared to and demand equal respect to atheist beliefs (or indeed, often demand more respect). They aren't equal. Atheist beliefs are the result of evidence and the same kind of thinking that has led to planes flying, modern medicine, computers and university academia. Religious beliefs are fairy tales based on illogical reasoning. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't contribute to so many problems in the world today: homophobia, mysogony, impeding scientific research and in some cases terrorism. To demand respect for that seems rather odd.



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Well said, but I have a couple of quarrels: atheistic beliefs are based more on a LACK of evidence, not evidence (though I'll allow it's nearly impossible to prove a sweeping negative).

Not all metaphysical beliefs are "illogical", no more than they are all oppressive. I suppose we could agree that all metaphysics are "non-rational", since the rational mind isn't equipped to deal with the supernatural, but non-rational isn't the same as "irrational" (i.e., "crazy'.

But basically I agree wtih you: I think everyone, including myself, has a right to our magical thinking. But I see no reason why you have to "respect" my views, except to the extent that you decline to persecute me for having them. (Which I know you would do.)

There's a big difference between individual religion/spirituality and organized religion. Individual beliefs and spirituality can be vastly helpful and sometimes even necessary for the individual, and should be encouraged and respected as long as they respect your own. It's organized religion that is more likely to cause problems, and in my view at least can lend itself to evil, and it often boils down to using and manipulating the beliefs and trusts of masses of people for political and other more selfish purposes.

Just as no radical Islamic terrorist represents or speaks for an entire religion, the same can and must be said for every other religion; including Christianity and its unfortunate, misguided interlopers known as bigoted bible-thumpers. This principle can be applied to really any religious denomination or line of thinking.

Yes, in the Old Testament it does. Not so in the New Testament. But sure, keep trying...

kdogg, a lot of Christians believe Jesus was incarnated precisely for the purpose of reforming the distortions of the Old Testament. Those who insist there's no conflict between Old and New are usually called Fundamentalists and there are plenty of them; but their view is no more inherently authentic than anyone else's. I believe that is Liza's point.

qol, I can't begin to comprehend Dr. Carson, except I know we can't use "brain surgeon" as a metaphor for intellectual brilliance any more.

Yeah, but Paul condemns sexuality (and women) in general. Petrine thought, which is the branch more commonly associated with Catholicism, is more concerned with good works and noble acts; Pauline thought, more associated with Protestantism and Evangelicism, is more concerned with rules of faith and law.



Neither one officially "spoke for Jesus," and it's telling that they have a conflict and it's never really resolved which was right or wrong.



Of course, you don't have to believe any of that is divinely inspired, or believe that these men did the things they say they did. Hell, you can even go a few steps further and say these men literally did not exist at all! It's your prerogative, and God (the deity of your choice, or the absence thereof) bless America for allowing, even encouraging, these debates.