#26
Posted: 12/14/05 at 3:26pm
some days this board makes me very sad. this thread. makes me very sad.
Kiss of the Spider Woman deserves a revival too!!! — Page 2
#27
Posted: 12/14/05 at 3:43pm
Well, okay. Maybe Hugh wouldn't be right for Molina. Let's just blame it on last night's fascinating episode of House and move on.
"I hate musicals... People don't sing in real life."
"Well, maybe they should."
--Kiss of the Spider Woman (cut line)
"Well, maybe they should."
--Kiss of the Spider Woman (cut line)
#28
Posted: 12/14/05 at 3:48pm
Maybe because it has only been 11 years maybe? Didn't "Into the Woods" have an unnusually quick revival though? Maybe it's just me or the fact they released the OBC on the DVD - It just seems it was done then, poof, up again. That's all well though since it is - likr KOTSW, A very beautiful and compelling piece indeed!
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#29
Posted: 12/14/05 at 3:49pm
While I agree with people who think it's way too early for a revival, I also agree with the possibility of a film.
Of course, we've seen the movie musical is a limited genre as of late, so any potential makers of this film would have to be sensitive to other movies in production.
I'm not sure how well it would draw as a movie, but I do remember thinking that it would make a good film when I saw it.
Of course, we've seen the movie musical is a limited genre as of late, so any potential makers of this film would have to be sensitive to other movies in production.
I'm not sure how well it would draw as a movie, but I do remember thinking that it would make a good film when I saw it.
#30
Posted: 12/14/05 at 5:26pm
Into the Woods didn't have a quick revival, it closed in 1989 and was revived in 2002 which is about 13 years, considering that shows like Fiddler gets revived like every other year that is not very quick I believe.
I hope that J.Lo movie is just a big lie because any role that has ever been played by Chita Rivera should never be performed by Jennifer Lopez, ever! Catherine Zeta Jones seems like a fabulous choice to play Aurora but I'm sure there's other actresses that could pull off the role that we don't know about.
Antonio Banderas as Valentin is an amazing choice.
I hope that J.Lo movie is just a big lie because any role that has ever been played by Chita Rivera should never be performed by Jennifer Lopez, ever! Catherine Zeta Jones seems like a fabulous choice to play Aurora but I'm sure there's other actresses that could pull off the role that we don't know about.
Antonio Banderas as Valentin is an amazing choice.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
#31
Posted: 12/14/05 at 5:33pm
not a stage revival, not yet and for god sake's please not Vanessa friggin Williams - BLECH!
what about this idea for the movie: you know how aurora is a memory, what if chita did the part as the way aurora is now dancing the way she did in the movies then....
what about this idea for the movie: you know how aurora is a memory, what if chita did the part as the way aurora is now dancing the way she did in the movies then....
Don't f*ck with me fellas. This ain't my first time at the rodeo.
#32
Posted: 12/14/05 at 5:52pm
Fred Ebb wanted to make a movie of SPIDER WOMAN, with Richard Gere as Molina. Can you imagine?
#33
Posted: 12/14/05 at 5:59pm
Richard Gere as Molina? Isn't he a little too old for the role?
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
#34
Posted: 12/15/05 at 12:27am
When Burt Lancaster was in talks to play Molina for the 1985 movie, Gere was a possible Valentin. I'm not sure how close he got to the project, but I believe he had expressed interest.
"I hate musicals... People don't sing in real life."
"Well, maybe they should."
--Kiss of the Spider Woman (cut line)
"Well, maybe they should."
--Kiss of the Spider Woman (cut line)
#35
Posted: 12/15/05 at 12:37am
Just thank your lucky stars that Paris Hilton or the Olsen Twins have not bought the film rights, LOL!
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#36
Posted: 12/15/05 at 12:52am
Oh, I do, jimmirae. Every day, I do.
"I hate musicals... People don't sing in real life."
"Well, maybe they should."
--Kiss of the Spider Woman (cut line)
"Well, maybe they should."
--Kiss of the Spider Woman (cut line)
#37
Posted: 12/15/05 at 12:55am
We all do! So Richard Gere was probably considered to play Valentin in a non-musical movie given that Spider Woman didn't open till 1993 right?
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
#38
Posted: 12/15/05 at 1:23am
Yes, I have seen the PLAY (Non Musical) version done, and done well, However, It simply doesn't work as a Play, The musical version makes the whole story much more eventful.
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#39
Posted: 12/15/05 at 1:42am
Richard Gere is not the best singer...i don't think i wanna see him in any musical anytime soon!!! LOL i almost threw up when he took off his clothes in "Chicago" it was like watching a geriatric home.
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one".
-Felicia Finley-
#40
Posted: 12/15/05 at 2:35am
You are so mean! He is sexy in his own Richard Gere way, the strip tease was not intended to be hot I believe. I just think it's funny that in the Chicago DVD director's commentary, Rob Marshall says how impressive it is that Gere holds the note at then end of "We Both Reached For The Gun" for a long time and I was like, excuse me?I can hold that note and keep it for even longer, anyone can. Just a random comment on Gere.
Back to Spider Woman conversation everyone.
Back to Spider Woman conversation everyone.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
#41
Posted: 12/15/05 at 2:40am
LOL!!!
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one".
-Felicia Finley-
#42
Posted: 12/15/05 at 3:02am
Well, number one - I suppose it is the age difference but I have never looked at Gere as "Geriatric", My goodness, where is the line of degredation today, 29?? Gere was HOT in CHI and still is for my vote.
Also, I have put my finger on WHY this cannot be revived at this time, And it is why Liza will not sing "Over the Rainbow", Because, It has been DONE - and Flawlessly by Chita Rivera and she still owns this role and could fly right back into the part of Aurora if she cared to and wow them again. Chita still OWNS this Tony Winning Role, That's the REAL answer. Goodness, I am soooo happy I am 46 tonight!
Also, I have put my finger on WHY this cannot be revived at this time, And it is why Liza will not sing "Over the Rainbow", Because, It has been DONE - and Flawlessly by Chita Rivera and she still owns this role and could fly right back into the part of Aurora if she cared to and wow them again. Chita still OWNS this Tony Winning Role, That's the REAL answer. Goodness, I am soooo happy I am 46 tonight!
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#43
Posted: 12/15/05 at 3:14am
hey i was joking...Richie is handsome...
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one".
-Felicia Finley-
#44
Posted: 12/15/05 at 3:21am
Yeah, Right! LOL!! You KNOW you wanted to see Richie Sambora in CHI - Just admit it!! LOL!!
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#45
Posted: 12/15/05 at 3:24am
Indeed it has been done before and beautifully yes, but some generations have never had the chance to see a full production of the show...people like me,lol. I think if the show was revived with a new concept, maybe a more cinematic style or be revised like Cabaret, then a new actress could give a completely different take on the role that respects Chita's performance but does something new. Again I say Donna Murphy or Jane Krakowski would be great on this show.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
#46
Posted: 12/15/05 at 3:31am
With all due respect to you Ray, and the Ladies Miss Murphy & Krakowski, I don't believe either of them has what it takes to top Rivera in that role, It was one of those "Once in a Lifetime" events and absolutely "PERFECT" - and she could do it again tomorrow if she desired to. It was THAT Great!
I ADORE Vanessa, Goddess Knows I Do - But even SHE couldn't TOP Chita, and she TRIED!! After she failed to top her the following women fell aside and the show closed, and Chita was still out touring it, As Big as the Broadway Show if not BIGGER. It was something! It's like an orgasm you can NEVER forget having... THAT GOOD!!
I ADORE Vanessa, Goddess Knows I Do - But even SHE couldn't TOP Chita, and she TRIED!! After she failed to top her the following women fell aside and the show closed, and Chita was still out touring it, As Big as the Broadway Show if not BIGGER. It was something! It's like an orgasm you can NEVER forget having... THAT GOOD!!
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#47
Posted: 12/15/05 at 3:36am
I'll make this brief...
After the recent success of Chicago, the recent success of Phantom, the current success of Rent, the eminent success of The Producers, and the eminent success of a gay-themed love story like Brokeback Mountain, Hollywood would be insane not to buy the rights to this show, which is in my opinion the most poignant and well-written show by Kander and Ebb.
After the recent success of Chicago, the recent success of Phantom, the current success of Rent, the eminent success of The Producers, and the eminent success of a gay-themed love story like Brokeback Mountain, Hollywood would be insane not to buy the rights to this show, which is in my opinion the most poignant and well-written show by Kander and Ebb.
#48
Posted: 12/15/05 at 3:41am
Well said!
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#49
Posted: 12/15/05 at 5:20am
This is horrible! Kiss of the Spider Woman deals with gay people, and could poison the minds of our easily impressionable youth! I saw the show when I was young and straight and now it's turned me into a full blown queer! Down with Chita!
Haha, just kidding! Actually, I agree with Chita "owning" the role, I saw her and was awed by her talent, it was an amazing night of theatre. I would love to see it revived, not right away, but some years down the road, perhaps with Bebe Neuwirth, who has played the role in London, and has a nack for doing a role that Chita "owns". It's a shame Louise Pitre isn't more of a dancer, because she has such a rich, smoky voice for the role.
Oh yeah, and no to Jane, Donna and Vanessa!
Haha, just kidding! Actually, I agree with Chita "owning" the role, I saw her and was awed by her talent, it was an amazing night of theatre. I would love to see it revived, not right away, but some years down the road, perhaps with Bebe Neuwirth, who has played the role in London, and has a nack for doing a role that Chita "owns". It's a shame Louise Pitre isn't more of a dancer, because she has such a rich, smoky voice for the role.
Oh yeah, and no to Jane, Donna and Vanessa!
If Lincoln were alive today, do you think he'd be pleased with his tunnel?
#50
Posted: 12/15/05 at 5:48am
Jimmirae, I highly doubt Donna Murphy, Jane Krakowski, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Bebe Neuwirth, Vanessa Williams, or any other star that we could come up with could ever top Chita Rivera. I am only 19 so I was only about 6 years old when this show opened so I never got the chance to see it. However, being a follower of Chita's greatest performances, Aurora/Spider Woman is arguably Chita's Mamma Rose. But just like Mamma Rose has been played by different actresses that have provided different sides to the role, I believe Aurora/Spider Woman could be played in a completely different way by an actress who didn't try to immitate or top Chita but who tried to bring up new things to the role and take it into another direction. Natasha Richardson and Alan Cumming did it with Cabaret, Bernadette Peters, Angela Lansbury, and Tyne Daly have done it with Gypsy, Murphy and Brooke Shields it with Wonderful Town, more recently LuPone did it with Sweeney. Well-written roles (I hold my opinion that this is Kander & Ebb's masterpiece, although Chicago is my fav. show) have many ways to be presented, if a director could take this show in a complete different direction than the original production and still make it work, then the new Spider Woman could come out behind the shadow of Chita's rendition without trying to top it. Do I make any sense?
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
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