LES MISERABLES - the movie musical - 2012
Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:33pm
MISS SAIGON is a lot more exciting a cinematic idea.
Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:38pm
Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:38pm
I think a LES MIZ movie could be something special with the right director, but MISS SAIGON has more possibilities for inventive filmmaking...
I think with either one you're pretty much forced to keep it sung-through... I REALLY can't see either of these working very well with lots of dialogue scenes replacing the recitative... but PLEASE get a better sync person than on POTO!
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Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:42pm
This film adaptation will have as much box office success at the film adaptation of Andrew Lloyd Webber's THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA did -- and THIS show is STILL on Broadway and STILL ranking at 95% in ticket sales weekly.
Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:47pm
Not unless they cast Miley Cyrus as Eponine, one of the Jonas Brothers as Marius and Selena Gomez or Demi Lovato as Cosette.
Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:48pm
I think SAIGON would be more open to dialogue and creative use of the music.
And Millie - I don't care if you cast the entire Nickolodeon/Disney roster - young people will hate it.
70 Million at the Box office tops
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Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:50pm
However in my head, I always thought Russell Crowe would make a great Valjean, ironic that they think so to. And how about Emily Blunt as Fantine or Eponine, instead of some awful teenybopper.
Posted: 10/16/09 at 1:55pm
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Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:04pm
<--- I want Ramin Karimloo as Enjolras (my favorite character). If they had him, they could cast whoever the heck else they wanted to and I'd be happy anyway. He's one of the best (and hottest..) Enjolrii in history.
Though David Thaxton is a close second for my favorite Enjy.
I'm praying they don't ruin this... Les Mis is very special to me. It was the first musical I ever saw, when I was around 8, and it's what got me into theatre.
Updated On: 10/16/09 at 02:04 PM
Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:13pm
There is no one who can make an audience accept people bursting into song unless they have a creative justification for it (ala Rob Marshall) or are doing a jukebox show where the songs are the main reason for the movie in the first place.
And that's assuming they cut out ALL the recitative.
Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:20pm
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Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:48pm
Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:49pm
I for one would LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE to see Geoffrey Rush as Thenardier and would it be thrilling to age, uglify, and fatten Anne Hathaway for Mme. Thenardier??? I just know she could kill that role!
HELL NO! to Russell Crowe!
--Aristotle
Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:52pm
It ruined Sweeney (IMO), and I'm fearful about Nine.
Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:53pm
And YES to Geoffrey Rush as Thenardier!!
If it really happens I hope they cast singers at least. This trend of casting non-singing actors is frustrating.
I hate it, too. It's kind of annoying that people automatically think of certain actors/esses because they can sort of sing a little. There's a HUGE multitude of fantastic actor/singers out there, you just have to look outside of Hollywood! If they insist on casting Hollywood actors, they should only consider the ones who are actually good at singing, like Jackman.
Updated On: 10/16/09 at 02:53 PM
Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:55pm
They should at least try and cast somewhat to type. How about Raul Esparza as Javert? Not totally the type, but better than Hugh Jackman.
Updated On: 10/16/09 at 02:55 PM
Posted: 10/16/09 at 2:59pm
I've never really been a huge fan of his, but ever since I first saw Moulin Rouge, I've wanted him to play Valjean.
I think Hugh Jackman would be a great Enjolras if he was younger, but not Valjean. I actually REALLLY want Josh Groban as Marius, although I know he's old for the part.
Posted: 10/16/09 at 3:01pm
And sudden casting idea!
As well as Geoffrey Rush, I'd love to see Nathan Lane as Thenardier.
And if they want to cast people who are popular with teeny-boppers, Ben Barnes, the guy who played Prince Caspian, has a very nice voice. I could see him as Marius, though he might be a few years too old.
Updated On: 10/16/09 at 03:01 PM
Posted: 10/16/09 at 3:15pm
But I would "demand" one more thing in order to make it work: live singing. No lip-syncing at all. I agree with everyone who says a through-sung movie with all prerecords doesn't cut it.
The only scenes that worked for me really well in Evita were the "live" ones, such as Madonna on her deathbed with Jonathan Pryce. It was as if the whole movie was running submerged under water and then suddenly came up for air.
So, live singing please. Or get ready for a stinker.
As far as the timing, I don't think it matters at all. Nor do I think the opportunity was missed. Chicago, anyone? Dreamgirls anyone? Both were successful at the box office, and both were well over 20 years old.
It means nothing. Especial with a period piece show (just like Chicago and Dreamgirls) that were both about other eras when they first opened.
BUT ... they seriously will have to tone down the cheesy synthesizer stuff and re-orchestrate just about everything. Easily done.
And they should do some serious editing. I'd say a half hour could go, easily. Particularly with three- and four-verse songs. Cut a verse or two!
My biggest problem with Les Mis has always been the lyrics. They are WAY too literal. Translations from French to English, done by a former theatre critic. Some of them are pretty terrible. But they don't amount to much more than describing, in a very mundane way, exactly what is going on on-stage.
"I'm sitting here in my chair, missing you, and looking into the darkness." No, that's not one of the lyrics, but it might as well be.
Any of those stage-direction-like lyrics should be chucked. We can SEE that you're sitting in a chair, missing someone, and looking into the darkness.
So, I would hope that a well-crafted screenplay could do away with much of that, raise the show up to a cinematic approach, and help fine-tune the rough parts a bit.
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Posted: 10/16/09 at 3:44pm
I think a film of Les Mis would cut most of the recitative compeltely, or replace it with spoken dialogue. It'd probably also be heavy on montages and flashbacks to make up for all of the "I AM STANDING AND SINGING ABOUT FEELINGS." I think the settings would be much more dynamic, too... much more walking down streets and entering different buildings and parks and things.
Like, "Stars," I can really see with Javert walking along the Paris streets by night, on the lookout for criminals but mostly with his mind on Valjean. And "One Day More" would be thrilling with people ACTUALLY marching down the street and spilling out of houses and shops to join them.
Updated On: 10/16/09 at 03:44 PM
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