Liza Minnelli, AI project- Page 3

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 1/30/26 at 5:02pm

binau said: "I kind of agree with you about the ethical issues. To steal someone’s likeness and try and replicate that especially without consent is ethically dubious territory.

But if we are talking about the art, hypothetically if it could produce the likeness in a way that is indistinguishable from the real thing would you still reject it? Ie is it just the principle rather than the outcome?"

Well... Yeah I would because I know that it's not them. AI also has an... eating its own tail problem. The more AI pumped out into the world (of which its currently flooding the internet) it becomes what those AI Engines become trained on and it becomes an approximation of an approximation. Have you happened to see those memes of photos that people ask AI to repeatedly recreate with no changes and after about 20 runs in it looks grotesque? AI models for these things are not sophisticated, they're not discerning, it's not running checks. It's just giving you what you ask for in the easiest way possible that it can.

It's never going to be indistinguishable because the only way it could be is if we lost those actual recordings of them to compare them too. Its an obsession of unartistic to pretend that they're talented when they're not. In a world that is flush with AI Slop that is maliciously or ignorantly spreading misinformation out into the world I don't think the "It's for fun" defense really holds much water against the greater damage. 

[BJR]

Posted: 1/30/26 at 5:56pm

Y'all. If you don't like AI, don't use it. But to act like hating it or demonizing it is going to make it go anywhere, when it's already everywhere and it's just started.

I say whether it's the book, the song, the AI agreement, we let the girl make some money to pay for her and Lorna's retirement. It's their mother, not ours.  

[Kad]

Posted: 1/30/26 at 6:14pm

AI can create a facsimile of how Judy Garland might sing "Another Winter in a Summer Town" and it would likely be pretty convincing to most people, but we would never know how she would actually do it. She would be drawing on her lifetime of experiences, most of which will never be known to anybody. An AI could take in every piece of writing about her, every recorded performance and interview, and would never know her or match her interior life. Just as Jinkx Monsoon could read every book and watch every performance and do Judy- she would still be Jinkx doing Judy. But where AI and Jinkx or any performer portraying a real person differ is that Jinkx will bring her own perspectives, feelings, and experiences to the performance, and that is what makes it art. AI has no perspective, no point of view, it just creates what it's told to. You want Judy Garland singing "Another Winter"? You got it. Do you want her to be wearing her iconic Carnegie Hall outfit? You got it.  Do you want her singing it while in blackface? You got it.  Does it matter what Judy would've thought? Nope.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 1/30/26 at 6:41pm

BJR said: "Y'all. If you don't like AI, don't use it. But to act like hating it or demonizing it is going to make it go anywhere, when it's already everywhere and it's just started.

I say whether it's the book, the song, the AI agreement, we let the girl make some money to pay for herand Lorna's retirement. It's their mother, not ours."

No actually you don't have to roll over and accept that AI is exploiting people and there absolutely does need to be guardrails on it. Maybe if the majority of leadership in Congress wasn't on death's door with no concept of what generative AI even is maybe we could actually address that. 

Liza has no idea what AI is and she didn't write that statement about it. She is a visibly declining elderly woman being taken advantage of by those around her. 

[sinister teashop]

Posted: 1/30/26 at 9:12pm

Merkin2 said: "Nobody said we should be toying with corpses.

AI is capitalist bull$hit? And paying money to go see someone live isn’t?

AI is just the latest technology. Nothing more, nothing less."

More is that it's being used as an investment casino by the richest people in the world and force fed to us by them and the U.S. government and is an ever expanding boil about to pop.

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 1/30/26 at 9:13pm

sinister teashop said: "Merkin2 said: "Nobody said we should be toying with corpses.

AI is capitalist bull$hit? And paying money to go see someone live isn’t?

AI is just the latest technology. Nothing more, nothing less."

More is that it's being used as an investment casino by the richest people in the worldand force fed to us by them and the U.S.government and is an ever expandingboil about to pop."

Thank you. 

[Merkin2]

Posted: 1/31/26 at 11:50am

People said the same thing when automation and computers and cell phones started happening.  People need to adapt to the times.  Those who don’t will be left behind.  I don’t buy into the conspiracy theories

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 1/31/26 at 12:12pm

Really can't imagine being so craven, gutless, and lazy that my only defense for enjoying harmful garbage is that it's inevitable. 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 1/31/26 at 5:32pm

Merkin2 said: "People said the same thing when automation and computers and cell phones started happening. People need to adapt to the times. Those who don’t will be left behind. I don’t buy into the conspiracy theories"

I wish I could just be this willfully ignorant about Generative AI and the negative impacts it will have to art, public safety, and trust in video evidence if it remains unregulated. 

Updated On: 1/31/26 at 05:32 PM